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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now I am compiling kdebase with

Code:

DO_NOT_COMPILE="debian doc drkonqi kappfinder kate kcheckpass kdcop kdebugdialog kdeprint kdesu kdm kfind khelpcenter khotkeys kicker klipper kmenuedit kpager kpersonalizer krichtexteditor kscreensaver kdepasswd ksysguard ktip kxkb nsplugins kreadconfig kdialog kstart ksystraycmd l10n legacyimport ksplashml kwin pics"; emerge kdebase


however, it doesn't seem to be working. Looks like everything is compiled anyway. I'll check back when it's finished.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry. forgot to mention. It's 3.3.0.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well to be honest, i don't seperate the 2 lines since in my oppinion it doesn't work at all, but some people said that worked so i added it to my how-to :/


Anyway, try it at one line, without the semicolon or whatever it is.

the ----> ; thingy :)
G'luck!

(By the way, dont use my example, you'll probably end up with errors. use only what _you_ don't want to be compiled ;)
And maybe the kde 3.3.0 things have changed)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's working now. Without ; ... :)

Anyway, I wanted to try your idea of combining xfwm4 with gnome-panel and kdesktop, however, I have some problems with gnome-panel failing to load several applets, like the ones for switching windows.

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The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WindowMenuApplet".
Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_13/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false

Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?


I tried reemerging libwnck, gnome-panel. Also tried emerging some extra gnome stuff (gnome-session, gdm, gnome-utils, gnome-applets), except for the (complete) gnome itself, but nothing seems to help. Should I emerge the whole gnome? I hope not. :)

Did anyone have similar problems? Any ideas how to fix this?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, i have the same problem, did you only emerge gnome-panel? i think it still misses something from the whole gnome, you can try emerging whole gnome but i dont think thats worth it.

Try fbpanel instead, but no applets then :(
Or use gnome-panel but without all applets available ;)
Some applets work, no?
Try emerging gnome-applets and gdesklets-core.
Maybe you get new applets that way, i believe so.


Edit: you can also emerge gnome-light maybe? its a light gnome, not all the stuff
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With
Code:

exec xfwm4 & gnome-panel

window-list like applets don't work. :(

With
Code:

exec xfwm4 & gnome-session

the applets work (ok, except for the show desktop icon, but I can live without that), but I get more or less the whole gnome, only with different wm (which is still better than gnomewm, I guess).
Now, I wonder what part of gnome-session accualy makes the problematic appelts to work. What do I need to do to make the bloody panel work and possibly intergate it with kdesktop? I've tried all sorts of combinations and I am running out of ideas. Anyone out there using standalone gnome-panel with working window-lists and workspace-switchers?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, can't answer that for you, i'm absolutely no Gnome Expert :)
You might try and ask the developers, i'm sure they'd like to answer it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Howto: DO_NOT_COMPILE for KDE ebuilds! (Super light KDE) Reply with quote

Marctraider wrote:

Code:
emerge kdebase


and if it finally emerges kdebase, ctrl+c to abort the compilation, and at THIS point use the DO_NOT_COMPILE="xxx xxx xxx" flag to apply them on kdebase. and further packages after kdebase.

Why don't you just do
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 emerge --onlydeps kdebase && DO_NOT_COMPILE="xxx xxx xxx" emerge kdebase

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is also possible yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a DO_NOT_COMPILE list for kdepim 3.3.1 that builds as little as possible in order to get KMail and KAddressBook:
Code:
DO_NOT_COMPILE="kdgantt kgantt kmailcvt kmobile ktnef libkal kpilot ksync kalarmd knode kitchensync karm kandy kalarm korganizer konsolekalendar kontact"
Handy for those of us without mobile phones, Palm Pilots, etc, and are not interested in getting an Outlook clone.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woooooooooooow
i used
Code:

time DO_NOT_COMPILE="kopete ksirc knode kget kppp knewsticker krdc" emerge kdenetwork

and ti was finished in only 10 min on my poor 1.7GHz celeron proc which used ot compile the full kdenetwork in more than 2 hours :)

now i am using the tip that is mentioned above for kdepim
hope it will work also :)

edit1: now i finished emerging kdegraphics with those options
Code:

DO_NOT_COMPILE="doc kamera kfax kgamma kiconedit kruler kuickshow kview kviewshell kfaxview kdvi kooka" emerge kdegraphics

and it ended in only 21 minute after taking about 3 hours


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice :) i tried it with that package too i think, saved me time also
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok kdepim wasn't as fast as the kdenetwork or kdegraphics but i am happy that it finihsd wihtout anyerros and now i hav a very clean kde wiht the things i want only :lol:

gonna try it later on Kdebase but not now cause i have an exam tomorrow and i haven't started studying yet :roll:

again thanks alot for this nice tips

edit1:
just finsihed emerging kdeutils with those options
Code:

DO_NOT_COMPILE="kedit kfloppy khexedit kjots klaptopdaemon ktimer kwallet kmilo kcardtools kdelirc kdessh kdf" emerge kdeutils

in 25 min
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, but i don't really care on how long it takes, i like the result being smaller thus faster kde :)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can i found the old list with KDE packages?? Some of the readme's are older then a year!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

small kick :oops: does anyone have this?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what you are asking for.

The new list is at http://docs.kde.org/. If you want an old list, which version do you want it for?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great, just what i was looking for!

[EDIT] my list (compiled kde-3.3.2(-r1) with this list and i use kde as my main DE):
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DO_NOT_COMPILE="drkonqi kappfinder kcheckpass kdebugdialog kfind khelpcenter kpersonalizer ksplashml ktip kxkb l10n kdm kdict kopete kpf kppp krdc krfb ksirc ktalkd knewsticker arts audiofile_artsplugin juk kaboodle kmid kmix libkcddb krec noatun kscd kaudiocreator mpeglib_artsplug kdgantt kgantt kmailcvt kmobile ktnef libical libkcal certmanager korn knotes libkdepim kpilot ksync kitchensync kalarmd knode kmail karm kandy kaddressbook libkpimexchange kalarm korganizer konsolekalendar kontact kaddressbook-plugins knewsticker-scripts ksig noatun-plugins renamedlgplugins vimpart kamera kcoloredit kfax kgamma kiconedit kmrml kpaint kpovmodeler kruler ksnapshot ksvg kolourpaint libkscan kfaxview kdvi kooka ark charselectapplet kcalc kcardtools kcharselect kdepasswd kdf kedit kfloppy khexedit kjots kmilo ksim ktimer kcmlinuz kdatkpackageksysv kuser lilo-config secpolicy kworldclock sounds wallpapers kprofilemethod cervisia kapptemplate kbabel kcachegrind kdeaccounts-plugin kompare kuiviewer kstartperf doc kdessh dcoprss librss ktip"


time used with a mobile P4 1.2 GHz:
Code:
# genlop -t kdelibs kdebase kdegraphics kdenetwork kdesdk kdeutils | grep -A1 '.-3.3.2'

     Fri Dec 31 23:59:13 2004 --> kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r1
       merge time: 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 27 seconds.
--
     Sat Jan  1 01:06:58 2005 --> kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r1
       merge time: 53 minutes and 17 seconds.
--
     Sat Jan  1 01:18:32 2005 --> kde-base/kdegraphics-3.3.2-r1
       merge time: 10 minutes and 4 seconds.
--
     Sat Jan  1 01:25:51 2005 --> kde-base/kdenetwork-3.3.2
       merge time: 6 minutes and 52 seconds.
--
     Sat Jan  1 00:13:41 2005 --> kde-base/kdesdk-3.3.2
       merge time: 14 minutes and 28 seconds.
--
     Sat Jan  1 01:31:54 2005 --> kde-base/kdeutils-3.3.2
       merge time: 6 minutes and 3 seconds.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

This is a pretty cool thread and I may actually use the methods when KDE 4.0 is released. I was wondering something though. I noticed that there is a gnome-light ebuild, might somebody be good enough to do the same with KDE? Judging from the forums, there appears to be a lot of demand and I suppose the main functional stuff would be the base package, konsole, konqueror, and some of the configuration/administration apps (kuser, etc.). The stuff that could be left out includes all the extras like games, educational stuff, etc.

Just a thought.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

evoweiss wrote:
Hi all,

This is a pretty cool thread and I may actually use the methods when KDE 4.0 is released. I was wondering something though. I noticed that there is a gnome-light ebuild, might somebody be good enough to do the same with KDE? Judging from the forums, there appears to be a lot of demand and I suppose the main functional stuff would be the base package, konsole, konqueror, and some of the configuration/administration apps (kuser, etc.). The stuff that could be left out includes all the extras like games, educational stuff, etc.

Just a thought.

Alex


Still hard masked, but works great.
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emerge konqueror
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it possible to specify to only compile a particular theme for kdeartwork?

I like to use plastik and crystal iconset and don't want all the other themes that come with kdeartwork.

The only DO_NOT_COMPILE options for kdeartwork are "IconThemes icewm-themes kscreensaver kwin-styles kworldclock sounds styles wallpapers"

if I DO_NOT_COMPILE IconThemes that will take out all icon sets including Crystal Iconset won't it?

So is there a way I can install crystal icons and plastic theme seperately?

any ideas on my best plan of attack?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a good start on all this is to add the following to USE in /etc/make.conf

Code:
-kdegames -kdepim -kdeedu


unless of course you need any of that stuff.


This approach is a great help.

At the moment ALL I really want from kde is k3b

I use xfce4 as WM because it is light and I dont want to double the footprint of the system for one damn app.

I think the warning about emergeing kdelibs before putting DON_NOT_COMPILE in is somewhat missing the point.

It has to work for both / all kde* pkgs installed

If you build kdelibs with kwallet, for ex. , you save nothing by later building kdebase without kwallet. If it does not work in one go , with the settings in make.conf , then it does not work.

(Also swapping things in and out will break next time you upgrade or rebuild)

It seems to me that the "suck it and see" approach is not too helpful here since each build takes hours.


Some more digging in the doc could turn up some more info on deps that would enable a more rigourous list of exclusions.

We are really looking for something like the deps management of portage at a detailed level inside kde. Split emerges is a first step.


Maybe a coordinated effort here would help if some common objective could be established. Some want a light KDE desktop , others like me just want the odd kde app with the minimum of cruft.

I propose the first subproject, which I think would have a good number of takers in the non-kde userbase.


k3b-minimum.

USE=$USE" -kdeedu -kdegames -kdepim"



Code:
DO_NOT_COMPILE="doc kandy kmail knode kpilot kmobile ksync kitchensync plugins korganizer klaptopdaemon
khexedit kopete kppp filesharing ksirc ktalkd artsbuilder juk kaboodle kmid krec kontact ksig kbruch
keduca kiten kletters kmessedwords kpercentage kstars ktouch kturtle kverbos kvoctrain kwordquiz
kbounce kfouleggs ksmiletris ksnake kspaceduel ktron kolf atlantik kbackgammon kblackbox klickety
klines konquest ktuberling lskat amor kmoon kweather kteatime"




I grab the list from this thread as a working one for use with kde DE.
I expect it to work . This will be my baseline.


Any takers?

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