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| srunni wrote: | | 3. I don't see how teaching yourself doesn't allow you to actually know it. I already know quite a bit of basic Japanese. |
Self teaching is grand. I was just curious about the motivation for learning japanese.
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| srunni wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | Their love songs must be funny |
A German love song? That sounds like an oxymoron to me 
The only kind of music that I can imagine being sung in German is angry metal. |
Tool had a song that was in German and they made it sound all evil yet it was describing a cookie recipe that one of the band member's grandmother made which happened to have no eggs. |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | If English isn't a language, I don't even want to think about what German is. |
it's how you talk if you want to order someone around. Their love songs must be funny |
German is good for two things only:
1. Heavy metal lyrics
2. S&M porn dialog |
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German is a great language. It took me many years to realize it because German schools use their German lessons to torture students instead of showing them that using the language properly can be fun. I like German for its complexity and countless ways to express something. It may sound aggressive or strange to some people, but I don't care - No one forces them to use it (Yeah - I know that we tried  ).
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| slycordinator wrote: | | Tool had a song that was in German and they made it sound all evil yet it was describing a cookie recipe that one of the band member's grandmother made which happened to have no eggs. |
Which song was that?
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runningwithscissors
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| Bloodsurfer wrote: | | slycordinator wrote: | | Tool had a song that was in German and they made it sound all evil yet it was describing a cookie recipe that one of the band member's grandmother made which happened to have no eggs. |
Which song was that? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Eier_Von_Satan
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| runningwithscissors wrote: | | Bloodsurfer wrote: | | slycordinator wrote: | | Tool had a song that was in German and they made it sound all evil yet it was describing a cookie recipe that one of the band member's grandmother made which happened to have no eggs. |
Which song was that? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Eier_Von_Satan |
And that's the same reason while heavy metal will never be sung in Thai or Chinese. |
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| Tenobok wrote: | | German is a great language. It took me many years to realize it because German schools use their German lessons to torture students instead of showing them that using the language properly can be fun. I like German for its complexity and countless ways to express something. It may sound aggressive or strange to some people, but I don't care - No one forces them to use it (Yeah - I know that we tried ). |
Damn! What's this? A German with a sense of humour  |
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | srunni wrote: | | If English isn't a language, I don't even want to think about what German is. |
it's how you talk if you want to order someone around. Their love songs must be funny |
German is good for two things only:
1. Heavy metal lyrics
2. S&M porn dialog |
German is a great language for heavy metal. Its close enough to grunting, they don't need to scream to make it sound bad.
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| runningwithscissors wrote: |
Do the two of you know some japanese/korean or is it one of those "self-teaching myself japanese because I like anime ^_^" things? |
I'm formally studying Japanese in college. Once I get my BSc (Comp Sci), my goal is to go back and study linguistics, specializing in foreign language studies, especially Spanish and Japanese. I strive to one day be fluently trilingual (at least ), but not simply know how to use the language's grammar, but why the language grammar is the way it is. (For example, the heritage of Kanji is that they were nearly all borrowed as-is from Chinese, so many of their readings are based on a transposition of sorts from that Chinese pronunciation to the Japanese phonology. That's quite nifty IMHO!)
One thing I love so much about foreign languages is that quite often (especially with Japanese and other East Asian languages), the culture and language are so intertwined that each one will define aspects of the other. For example, in japanese, nearly half of all verb conjugation and adjective inflection, as well as many choices of vocabulary or honorifics (敬語, Hiragana: けいご, Romaji: "keigo") is based entirely on formality and level of respect between the speaker and the audience or person to whom is being spoken.
As srunni mentioned (and which I will wholeheartedly agree with), Japanese is also classified by many as one of the most difficult languages for an adult native English-speaker to learn (along with Korean, Arabic, and Chinese), and it's this aspect of being so completely different from what I already know of my fluency in English and Spanish that makes it such a challenge and so intriguing.
However, I will admit that my love for anime is a driving force behind choosing to study Japanese instead of Mandarin Chinese or Korean or other languages. (I think I'd also love to learn Latin, due to its more-or-less unambiguous grammar; but it's those myriad of rules that would probably make me hate it the minute I start studying it.)
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BTW, where is this from? It's hilarious. |
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072
Might be that
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| Dralnu wrote: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072
Might be that |
That bug report is immortal, it should be written into the bible 
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| AidanJT wrote: | | Dralnu wrote: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072
Might be that |
That bug report is immortal, it should be written into the bible |
Its one of the few sites I have bookmarked just to keep up with it. Its funny on so many levels.
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| Dralnu wrote: | | AidanJT wrote: | | Dralnu wrote: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072
Might be that |
That bug report is immortal, it should be written into the bible |
Its one of the few sites I have bookmarked just to keep up with it. Its funny on so many levels. |
Sorry for the confusion. I know about the bug report, I meant the cartoon.
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| jdmulloy wrote: | | Dralnu wrote: | | AidanJT wrote: | | Dralnu wrote: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072
Might be that |
That bug report is immortal, it should be written into the bible |
Its one of the few sites I have bookmarked just to keep up with it. Its funny on so many levels. |
Sorry for the confusion. I know about the bug report, I meant the cartoon. |
Its still a funny bug report
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Best src code comment evar! |
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| Naib wrote: | http://code.google.com/p/xee/source/browse/trunk/XeePhotoshopLoader.m?spec=svn28&r=11
line 107 onwards |
Reminds me of the Word Document format from MS Office.
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LOL, that is so brilliant, I'm laughing to tears.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Best src code comment evar! |
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| Naib wrote: | http://code.google.com/p/xee/source/browse/trunk/XeePhotoshopLoader.m?spec=svn28&r=11
line 107 onwards |
I know what he's talking about. I worked for a printing company for a short time and had to write software that would convert file formats from one to the other, psd being one of them.
As I recall it was god-awful. They've since come up with a halfway decent xml spec, but their early renditions of a file format were like reading and writing cryptic messages written by a parapalegic who'd just been involved in a car accident and could only use his toes, which, if that wasn't bad enough, he only had 15 seconds to finish up before the drugs knocked him out.
I'm not kidding. A meaningful line of characteristics describing a box was near indecipherable. It was horrible.
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I read that very same comment somewhere else in the last few days.
Was this slashdotted or something?
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| Awesome. |
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yer well the comment is soo awsome, it needs its own thread. I got it from [H]ard anyway not /.
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I love how the next comment after that outburst of rage is "sanity check" .
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