Gentoo sources on CD for modem users?

### · Guest

Hi everyone,

Would it be possible for Gentoo to put their sources onto CD so that modem users could install with little or no internet downloads?

Thanx!

GogoGaggeto · Guest

Man, that would be great! In some days i will lost my dsl connection, so a snapshot of the sources would be a cool thing for lowspeed-internet-users. To get a patch would not be a problem, i think.

klieber · Posted: Sun May 05, 2002 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: yes, lets give it a try!

GogoGaggetto · Guest

>> ...you from downloading the sources yourself and dumping... <<

Hello? With my modem?

I thought about a small patch, not about upgrading KDE 2.x to 3.x. To download an security patch would be ok, up to 5 mb or more. But not download Xfree 4.3 because its the newest version i can get.
I mean, you buy this source CD's, build your system and buy a new scoure-cd-set in 6 months or so; if there's worth to do so.
If you are a modem user, you wouldn't even think about running an anonymous ftp on your box. So security in the meaning that someone could hack you is not the problem, imho. Go online 3 times in one month...
Security in the meaning, that the actual kernel could burn my house down would be a mess that should be fixed by a patch.

Phillip · Guest

How about a script that comes with Gentoo that scans the list of software that you have emerged and generates a batch script (one for *nix and another for Win32) that FTPs the source files you needs and tars them up. You can take this generated file on a floppy to work, leave it going, and burn the results onto a CD-ROM before you go home. Copy file from CD-ROM into appropriate directory, untar and set the upgrade going. I am also going to be losing broadband soon and would find this invaluable.

Phillip.

klieber · Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: How about a script?

easydisk · n00b Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 7

If you are living in Europe you can order at http://www.munnikes.nl/cd/ cd's with Gentoo sources.
But I think if Gentoo provide big (multiple files from 650 MB) cdimages with the sources (not only with the base install) you can order it by Cheapbytes, etc. They are selling now the small cd images.

balor · n00b Joined: 31 May 2002 Posts: 3

I could really do with a facility such as this.

If there was a ~= 1 month old distro available on CD I could download it in university, bring it home and install it. From then I could use my modem to "emerge rsync" or installation. I just have a problem installing the initial stuff I want eg: kde3. The downloading of individual distfiles (as opposed to emerging) is VERY cumbersome, if this were made a bit easier it would be a great help.

klieber · Posted: Fri May 31, 2002 10:17 pm Post subject:

jlg · Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:45 pm Post subject:

how about emerge -f

klieber · Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:51 pm Post subject:

BradB · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 9:48 pm Post subject:

I've just installed Gentoo (in fact the kernel is sitting at home compiling now

I've got a fast connection at work & a slow old dial-up at home. When I was at work I downloaded any package that was greater than about 10Mb, and anything that looked important - it came to about 500Mb on CD. Then I installed Gentoo from within my Mandrake distro, copied files from the CD to /usr/portage/distfiles (after an emerge rsync) It still took about 5 hrs to download the important bits and pieces I'd missed. The first thing I'm doing after Gentoo is installed is burning my DL'd distfiles to CD (because I'm sure I'll install again - I'm a bit of a n00b still). Anyhow, I too think it would be great if Gentoo provided a DL list (or for-sale CD for those with no broadband access at all) of the packages required to get a basic kernel, X and KDE/Gnome system up and running. If I'd had a list of packages to get (could be generated daily by somebody's emerge) that I could feed to a windoze FTP getter then I would have saved about 5 hours in DL time.
Aside from that my first experience is awesome - I grabbed the latest kernel sources from a mirror, but not the gentoo specific patch. I was mighty impressed when Gentoo only DL'd the diffs and gentoo patch and got to work.

Cheers
Brad

delta407 · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 9:57 pm Post subject:

See the thread entitled Download lists for dial up users.

BradB · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 10:08 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the tip delta. I ran across this yesterday, but we only run windows at work. I guess I could have done a part install of Gentoo, run emerge and then grabbed the files I needed. I just wanted to start playing with Gentoo and not waste a day

It would have been handy if there was a list on the Gentoo site that I could have fed into wzFTP or somesuch & grabbed everything I needed.

Cheers
Brad

delta407 · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 10:39 pm Post subject:

Read it again.

BradB · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 10:45 pm Post subject:

The issue I have isn't the FTP program - it's that I can't generate the lists of packages from my windoze work box, no awk, sed, etc. Like I said - I could have partially installed gentoo (at home) & run the script, then brought it back to work - but I wasn't that prepared, I wanted to grab what I needed at work, take it home & install it that night.

Cheers
Brad

delta407 · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 10:51 pm Post subject:

Well, you need a partially-installed Gentoo to run emerge to get the file list in the first place, so...

BradB · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 11:09 pm Post subject:

Yeah

That's why a plaintext file list (of the basics to get going) somewhere on the site here would be really good. I'd image that it would be reasonably easy to have the server generate up-todate lists & dump it somewhere. Then just feed that into wget for winblows, DL to a CD & you save a tonne of time on the old dial-up.

Cheers
Brad

klieber · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 11:16 pm Post subject:

All packages required for 'emerge system'. Note that these use my USE variables, which are very server oriented. (no X, KDE, etc.) YMMV. It should at least let you get the most important packages to get an installed gentoo system.:

BradB · Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 11:21 pm Post subject:

Wow! Thanks a lot. BTW the boards here are very friendly and helpful. It's too late for me now - I'm at the kernel compile stage

I'm sure this list will be very useful for other dial-up new users though.

Brad