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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 5:17 am    Post subject: Portage pronunciation Reply with quote

Thanks to the official Gentoo FAQ, we all know how to pronounce "gentoo". How do you folks pronounce "portage"? I expect it's probably "port-uhge", rhyming with "court-sludge", but I must confess my favorite pronunciation is the somewhat affected "por-tajj", rhyming with "corsage".
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just always assumed it to be: port-idge

Then again, the 'p' could be silent... 'orr-tajj' hmm, sounds like a french hors d'oeurve.
-Voulez-vous de l'ortage, monsieur?
-Mais, bien sur. Je l'adore, l'ortage.

(Pardonnez-moi. Ca fait longtemps depuis j'ai pris une class de francais.)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm French, so I just say "portage". :)

Oh, that's "por-tajj" for those who want to have an idea of how to pronounce it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Por-tuh-ghee?
Port + Age?

Ok, port-uhge, with a little less "U" sound.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Portage. As in "large".

Port -(l)arge (The L is not pronounced)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Port-edge. Kinda like tonnage. But y'all might pronounce that differently, too. If I told two people from the US and UK that something sounded like "Aluminium" then they would both know what I was talking about but one of them would be wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I told two people from the US and UK that something sounded like "Aluminium" then they would both know what I was talking about but one of them would be wrong.
:lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Port-age
Port as in the drink
age as in how old you are
Equal emphasis on each sylable.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"por-taaj" is the nearest i can type it, the "aa" is looong. :)

{edit} or maybe "por-tidge"?!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

por•tage

Pronunciation: (pôr'tij, pOr'-, or, for 2, 3, 5, 6, pôr-täzh'), [key]
—n., v., -taged, -tag•ing.

—n.
1. the act of carrying; carriage.
2. the carrying of boats, goods, etc., overland from one navigable water to another.
3. the route over which this is done.
4. the cost of carriage.

—v.i.
to make a portage: On this stretch of the river, we have to portage for a mile.

—v.t.
to carry (something) over a portage; make a portage with: We portaged our canoe around the rapids.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5. a true ports system in the tradition of BSD ports, but is Python-based and sports a number of advanced features including dependencies, fine-grained package management, "fake" (OpenBSD-style) installs, path sandboxing, safe unmerging, system profiles, virtual packages, config file management, and more.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Brazilian, and the French pronounce makes more sense for me than the English one 8)

Another day I tried to say "Bayard" to a bus driver and he replayed (Oh, BEYERD) 8)
(this is American English, I think that the British pronounce is easier to get -- the vowels are more like in Latin-derived languages, I think....)

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I'm French, so I just say "portage". :)

Oh, that's "por-tajj" for those who want to have an idea of how to pronounce it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My pronunciation is the same as the first dictionary one gsfgf posted (port-ijj). At college there was a body of water called "the Portage" which was actually a lake that was turned into a canal across the peninsula during the mining years (see also Keweenaw county Michigan, Lake Superior, Copper Country, Michigan Tech). During winter when there was like 300" of snow, the very steep roads in Houghton and Hancock would get pretty slick. Usually once or twice a year, someone would do the "Portage Plunge" and drive their car into the portage. Being a canal, it had pretty sheer sides, and you'd sink right to the bottom, 10-20 feet depending on where you went in.

I think when somebody jumps head first into Gentoo, it should be called "doing the Portage Plunge".
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a little negative to me. Perhaps "Buying a stairway to heaven" is a bit more appropriate ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kanuslupus wrote:
Sounds a little negative to me. Perhaps "Buying a stairway to heaven" is a bit more appropriate ;)

OT, but it's OTW. I always thought "buying a stairway to heaven" was a reference to suicide, which does not make it much more uplifting. ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention it doesn't have any reference or puns involving Gentoo jargon. Maybe "chroot yourself in the head"?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boa13 wrote:
I'm French, so I just say "portage". :)
Oh, that's "por-tajj" for those who want to have an idea of how to pronounce it.

I'm French too, and I teach everybody around here to pronounce "por-tajj".

By the way, it looks much nicer too... :D
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To fellow French pronouncers:

Do you make the 'r' sound somewhat similar to the 'h' of American "hello"?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think so. Not so strong as an American 'r'.

rac wrote:
To fellow French pronouncers:

Do you make the 'r' sound somewhat similar to the 'h' of American "hello"?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pizen wrote:
If I told two people from the US and UK that something sounded like "Aluminium" then they would both know what I was talking about but one of them would be wrong.

I know that most likely I'm going to make a fool of myself with this question, however, could you enlighten a stupid, ignorant German about the inner meaning of this one? :oops:
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question to the por-tajj pronouncers... The second syllable tajj would rhyme with "hodge podge" correct? And the stress would be on the second syllable? My pronunciation has the stress on the first, but I don't think I can pass up an opportunity to try to sound French. ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pizen wrote:
If I told two people from the US and UK that something sounded like "Aluminium" then they would both know what I was talking about but one of them would be wrong.

I know that most likely I'm going to make a fool of myself with this question, however, could you enlighten a stupid, ignorant German about the inner meaning of this one? :oops:

US = aloo-mih-nuhm
UK = alyoo-mih-niyum
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hear portage :P

Hear aluminum
Hear aluminium
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac wrote:
To fellow French pronouncers:

Do you make the 'r' sound somewhat similar to the 'h' of American "hello"?

No, the R is very strong, can't find equivalent in english.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:34 am    Post subject: enough already! Reply with quote

Ok. It's time for a definitive answer:
The pronunciation of the word "portage," as used by Gentoo Linux is dependant on the speaker's intentions/place of origin. Here are some examples:
    UPer (someone from the UP... Michigan): Puor'-tidj
    American trying to be french: Por-tadge'
    French being french: Poor-tazh'
    Redneck: Port-adge'
    Swahili: Por-*click*-idge
    Window's user: huh?

As you can see, it all depends on where the person is coming from.
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