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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:43 pm    Post subject: kernel *stops* after USB/UHPI init Reply with quote

installed stage3 for my cpu, everything looks fine. I already installed gentoo some times on different machines and never had such problems.

For the first time I used ext3, but support is activated so that should be no problem. the USB init itself looks good, so maybe it's "whatever comes next". What might that be? maybe I can simply disable it or so...

thx,
Large

edit: OK I compiled without USB and now it just stops after the step before the USB apeared. so, apperently now USB-Prob.
?(


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you boot in with a livecd, mount the drives and consult your logs?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at this state there seems to be no logging active (syslog ist started later, and bootlog doesnt seem to run either)

well I did one very bad thing I did not mention - I simply tried to install without an additional boot partition - I think it should be possible to install and run like this, and after all the kernel is loaded, so it should not be so bad.

I simply have no empty/additional partitions on that system...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LGW wrote:
at this state there seems to be no logging active (syslog ist started later, and bootlog doesnt seem to run either)


Ugh, yes, sorry. And yes, having no boot partition won't shipwreck you - /boot on a separate partition is a seatbelt / hardhat, nothing more.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can boot the livecd (well I use the UT-live right now) without any problems, so I think it has something to do with the file systems.

Is there anything I have to use (kernel parameters, any special stuff when booting from ext3, ..., ...) or do when using ext3?

I think the kernel may have some problems loading a module or accessing the partition table or ?!?!?!?

*grmpf*

BTW, I used an 2.4.17 kernel on that system before, without any problems (but ext2) - maybe something from the gentoo kernel patches could be the reason?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LGW wrote:
Is there anything I have to use (kernel parameters, any special stuff when booting from ext3, ..., ...) or do when using ext3?

I think the kernel may have some problems loading a module


Ooh yes, make sure the FS type of the root file system is compiled into the kernel directly, not as a module.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, yep :)

did that mistake about two years ago, so I quadruple-checked it this time. After all, the kernel should be able to mount the ext3 as ext2 if things are not to bad. Both file systems are compiled into the kernel. No Modules here.

I just compiled again with anything switched off that could be switched off without making things unworking - still the same result. The system just stops. In fact, it doesn't even show a kernel panic or so... ://

Hmm there is one other thing, maybe that is what makes things complicated. I have an extended partition containing swap and an additional ext2 partition (so swap maps to /dev/hda6 and that other one to /dev/hda5). My root/boot partition is /dev/hda4, which should be
root(hd0,3) in grub)... but after all, GRUB finds its own menu and it loads the kernel, so finding hd0/3 seems not to be the problem.

If I just had any idea what is initialized after PCI Hardware init and/or USB? Maybe the file system isnt the problem at all...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK this sucks.

I know kicked really EVERYTHING from kernel whats not neccessary (incl. ext3 support - the kernel should boot with ext2 on the same partition). Well it worked - kind of. System boots fine till

Starting syslogd, klogd...

than freezes. Kind of. Ctrl-Alt-Del brings the default
INIT: switching to...
... TERM signal

stuff. Than nothing more. WTF?
CTRL-Alt-Del again and it shuts down. Or at least, til dhcpd.

???!!!

oh btw. the root partition seems to be mounted correctly, because a check is forced after each unclean reboot and so on. I have log files, now. Kind of.
messages just lists the reboot init, nothing else.

tomorrow I'll try the vanilla kernel o)

*********************************************

uuuuuuuuuuuuuh wait. OK. I found THAT problem. The sleep command is somehow f*cked up... there is a

sleep 2

between syslogd and klogd, and the system waits "eternally" here. Maybe there is something wrong with my RTC support?

8O
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2002 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello!
I had exactly the same problem. The solution that worked for me: compile the kernel *with* devfs support but *disable* the option where it says "automatically mount (devfs) on boot". I do not know why this causes trouble, though.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2002 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, I got the vanilla kernel up& running now (hey, I'm writing under it right now ;) ) and I think thats fine for me.

It's possible that the mount devfs on boot option is off by default here (wait, let me check.... jepp its off) so this works out of the box.

The system is fast as never before (SuSE) and so I'll stick to the default kernel until I reach any other Problems. Ext3 is working, too.

*sigh*
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem you have with the gentoo sources is that SMP option is enable in the kernel.

That makes the boot hangs after USB or network.

Remove SMP option and every thing should be fine.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do you disable SMP ?

I mean I am assuming it is somewhere in the menuconfig
kernel menu but where ?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hitman200ca wrote:
Where do you disable SMP ?

I mean I am assuming it is somewhere in the menuconfig
kernel menu but where ?


It is in Processor type and features
as Symmetric multi-processing support

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