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therion12
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| I've gotten a performance boost all around with KDE 3.1_beta2.. |
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Mustard007
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sf_alpha
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| Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 7:41 am Post subject: Wonder of gentoo speedup with prelink |
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Hm .... There's a lot difference starttime on konq example ... 
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Mustard007
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rasat
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Bouiaw wrote: | I have just installed the Mandrake to compare it with the Gentoo. I am very surprised to see that the Mandrake run faster that Gentoo.
I really like Gentoo but the result is clear : all my kde apps are faster under Mandrake.
Anyone else has tested both Mandrake and Gentoo on the same computer ? |
I have tested Mandrake since version 6.0. Its a great distro but each version seems slower than previous. Recently I installed MDK 8.1 on my friend's old machine (Celeron 366Mhz) and I had to uninstall it. It was too slow for my friend's liking. To not disappoint his opinion about Linux I installed RedHat 7.2. Wahoo, what a difference. If he had had DSL connection I would have installed Gentoo.
My machine is P-III 700Mhz, IBM Thinkpad T20. I have not tried MDK 9.0 (maybe faster) but I installed RedHat 8.0. General performance is more or less same as Gentoo but KDE apps are faster.
| kanuslupus wrote: | | I wonder if some Mandrake employees know of some way to configure KDE to optimize it during install. |
I conclude same as Kanuslupus that Mandrake team (also RedHat), at present has a good KDE optimizer or whatever makes it faster.
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aardvark
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| rasat wrote: | but I installed RedHat 8.0. General performance is more or less same as Gentoo but KDE apps are faster.
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The last 3 trials of Gentoo 1.4 install got me very slow kde systems. The last 1.2 install however (half august) got me a system (That I use primarily) that is not surpassed by any other distro in speed. I am wondering why it doesn't work with gcc 3.2. |
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dreamer3
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| aardvark wrote: | | The last 3 trials of Gentoo 1.4 install got me very slow kde systems. The last 1.2 install however (half august) got me a system (That I use primarily) that is not surpassed by any other distro in speed. I am wondering why it doesn't work with gcc 3.2. |
Quite a few others have said this as well. Has anyone solved this mystery yet? Maybe gcc 3.21 (just went stable in portage) will make some difference. |
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kementeus
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I have used Mandrake since the 6.0 version, long long time ago now...
I was always happy and think it was enough, robust and easy to install and manage distro... and all the others distros that I've probed was just for hobbies...
Right now I'm a Gentoo user, and I prefer Gentoo over other distros like Debian, RedHat and Mandrake; why?... Mandrake 9.0 has a lot of bugs embeded in its new kernel (an mdk kernel) and the new urpmi really sucks...
Emerge is powerful over urpmi, really, that is one of the advantage (That's my personal opinion) of Gentoo over Mandrake and other RPM based distros....
I don't know... but when I look back I ignore why I was using Mandrake...
(Sorry for my english but it's not my first language, not even my second)
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dioxmat
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a few thoughts about all this "mandrake is faster thing" :
- they are using prelink and the new glibc/binutils. we do not. (at least in stable)
- they are using a lot of kde patches which might help
- the new gcc removes mmx and 3dnow optimisations with some march (at least on my system), which means we get binaries a bit less optimised that they should be
- im using quite agressive cflags, and I feel kde was fast enough (but I dont really use it). those who have a slow system, make sure you are not using mcpu but march in your CFLAGS.
- the lastest gentoo kernel do not include the low latency patch. now I've no idea why, but that might explain some speed differences between different gentoo installations. |
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syadnom
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 12:50 am Post subject: gentoo is faster |
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gentoo is faster if you configure your system correctly, just by the fact that gentoo does not load up 10,000 things to run in the background like mandrake.
if your mandrake mox seems faster, then you havent set up gentoo correctly, for instance, is your /etc/hosts file setup up properly? that can make a HUGE difference.
is your kernel the same? or are you comparing an optimized mandrake kernel witha few tweeks here and their, to your own little warped gentoo kernel that you may not have known what you were doing on?
make sure your hosts file is set up properly, and get the mandrake kernel sources and use them to build your kernel, just for testing, to see if the kernel is whats causeing your slowdown.
also, are you using the same version of KDE? how about GCC? |
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