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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:48 am    Post subject: Xorg-X11 and Ati Radeon 9600 - oddity Reply with quote

Well, after many attempts to get xorg-x11 to work... I did, it would not work with the driver set to "radeon", but does with driver set to "ati".

lsmod shows radeon is loaded, anyone ever see anything like that before?

Oh, when radeon was tried, it bitched about no usable modes, and did not seem to detect the monitor, while the ati driver did detect my monitor.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any ATI Radeon > 8500 uses the proprietary ATI X driver; anything less, the xorg X driver.

Both use the "radeon" kernel module.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, with xfree I was using radeon, in 64bit, there is no proprierty drivers yet.

the odd thing was my FX86Config was not a drop in and go, and telling it to use ati worked and detected the monitor, the radeon did not.

Oh well, I will keep poking and searching, bound to figure it out. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Xorg-X11 and Ati Radeon 9600 - oddity Reply with quote

What are your commands to get xorg-x11 to work on Ati Radeon 9600?

I try to install X on eMachines M6807 notebook which has ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 video card on 2.6.5-gentoo x86_64 with the genkernel method.

# emerge ati-drivers
gives some errors because all packages are masked,
so I did:
# emerge /usr/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/ati-drivers-3.9.0-r1.ebuild

This is ok so I did:
# emerge xorg-x11
# env-update
# source /etc/profile

# Xorg -configure
gives these errors:

...
Symbol xf86SetDDCproperties from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!

*** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not
*** be the reason for the server aborting.

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborting


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.X.Org
for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.


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Well, after many attempts to get xorg-x11 to work... I did, it would not work with the driver set to "radeon", but does with driver set to "ati".

lsmod shows radeon is loaded, anyone ever see anything like that before?

Oh, when radeon was tried, it bitched about no usable modes, and did not seem to detect the monitor, while the ati driver did detect my monitor.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hypnos wrote:
Any ATI Radeon > 8500 uses the proprietary ATI X driver; anything less, the xorg X driver.

Both use the "radeon" kernel module.


ATI propietart driver use fglrx kernel module, also a driver called fglrx in X.

In a 64bit enviroment you can't have (at the moment) Dri and 3d acceleration (propietary drivers are only 32bit) with any card greather than 9200...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it possible to have X, without Dri and 3d acceleration, running in 64bit with any card greather than 9200?
i.e. X in a minimium way.

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Hypnos wrote:
Any ATI Radeon > 8500 uses the proprietary ATI X driver; anything less, the xorg X driver.

Both use the "radeon" kernel module.


ATI propietart driver use fglrx kernel module, also a driver called fglrx in X.

In a 64bit enviroment you can't have (at the moment) Dri and 3d acceleration (propietary drivers are only 32bit) with any card greather than 9200...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, although not accelerated my ATI 9600 works, and the problem I did have was fixed in xorg-x11-6.7.0-r1.

This appears to be the list of supported cards in the radeon driver as found in the logs:
Code:
(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
        ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
        ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI),
        ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP),
        ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP),
        ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336,
        ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137,
        ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337,
        ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437,
        ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BC (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI),
        ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI),
        ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834,
        ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835,
        ATI Radeon 9200PRO 5960 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP),
        ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 NF (AGP),
        ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP),
        ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NP (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP),
        ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP),
        ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP),
        ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP),
        ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you make ATI 9600 works with AMD64 and xorg-x11?
I tried but got errors, please see my previous post for details.

thumper wrote:
Yes, although not accelerated my ATI 9600 works, and the problem I did have was fixed in xorg-x11-6.7.0-r1.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using the 64bit mode, so I don't use the emergable ati-drivers, I just use what is in xorg-x11, and the kernel.

I built my kernel by hand, as opposed to genkernel.

here is my xorg.conf, maybe something in it might help serve as an example.
Code:
#
# xorg.conf
#

Section "Files"
   RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
   FontPath     "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load  "extmod"
   Load  "dri"
   Load  "dbe"
   Load  "record"
   Load  "xtrap"
   Load  "glx"
   Load  "speedo"
   Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard1"
   Driver      "keyboard"

   Option       "XkbModel" "pc104"
   Option       "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse1"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option       "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
   Option       "Device" "/dev/mouse"
   Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   #DisplaySize     360   270   # mm
   Identifier   "Monitor1"
   VendorName   "STN"
   ModelName    "S/T 97B/96B"
   Option       "DPMS"


    Modeline "1280x1024"  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
   Modeline "1024x768"   94.50  1024 1072 1168 1376  768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
   Modeline "800x600"   56.30  800 832 896 1048  600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
   Modeline "640x480"   36.00  640 696 752 832  480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync
   
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "ShadowFB"              # [<bool>]
        #Option     "VGAClocks"             # [<bool>]
        #Option     "KGAUniversal"          # [<bool>]
   # Option      "no_accel" "False"
   # Option      "AGPFastWrite" "True"
   # Option      "EnablePageFlip" "False"
   Option      "AGPMode" "4"
   Identifier  "Card1"
   Driver      "radeon"
   VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
   BoardName   "RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]"
   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen 1"
   Device     "Card1"
   Monitor    "Monitor1"
   DefaultDepth 24
   
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth    8
      Modes    "1280x1024"
   EndSubSection
   
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth    16
      Modes    "1280x1024"
   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"
      Depth    24
      Modes    "1280x1024"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier     "Primary Layout"
   Screen         "Screen 1"
   InputDevice    "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice    "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

#Section "DRI"
#   Mode 0666
#EndSection



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