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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, out of interest, you mentioned a few posts back that you donate to your church...
What kind of car does your spiritual leader have?

I go to a catholic church, i dont recall the priest having Ferrari.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe all souls were created in the beginning, none since then. The reason for population growth is in the conditions on the earth getting better, so giving the soul greater opportunities.

Ah, so their are people living with souls who have not had an earlier incarnation. But why do they than suffer? And don't try to tell me that there are people who never suffer at all. I don't buy that.

Souls that never had incarnations are called Angles, they are unfallen beings, we are fallen angles.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You didnt get it, do you: spiritual cant be explained by science.

Haha, oh, I got it all right. Standard answer of people who are convinced the have all the answers without bothering to investigate other possible explanations. Some nasty people would call people like that dogmatic.

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if I forgot what I was doing, then it firstly started on spiritual level, subconsciousness, and later on it becomes "material expression". Just like every sickness is firstly sickness of spirit, and later sickness of body. Phylosophy, psychology and neurophysics... do you actully think they studied it from the spiritual side?

They study/studied behaviour and find/found far more simply and reproduceable mechanisms that explain a lot of the so called spititual phenomena.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
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petrjanda wrote:
I believe all souls were created in the beginning, none since then. The reason for population growth is in the conditions on the earth getting better, so giving the soul greater opportunities.

Ah, so their are people living with souls who have not had an earlier incarnation. But why do they than suffer? And don't try to tell me that there are people who never suffer at all. I don't buy that.

Souls that never had incarnations are called Angles, they are unfallen beings, we are fallen angles.


Oh brother...

You *really* *really* need to see a mental healthcare worker asap.

You have no idea how many people there are in mental institutions with the same ideas and warped religious view as you. You would fit right in!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Haha, oh, I got it all right. Standard answer of people who are convinced the have all the answers without bothering to investigate other possible explanations. Some nasty people would call people like that dogmatic.

it depends how you understand your existence: i understand it as spiritual, entrapped in material.
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ophysics... do you actully think they studied it from the spiritual side?

They study/studied behaviour and find/found far more simply and reproduceable mechanisms that explain a lot of the so called spititual phenomena.[/quote]
None of them studied it, as could be said, "soul occupying body", that is spritiual exists before material, but they studied as "body occupying soul", unaware of their own spiritual existence.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Souls that never had incarnations are called Angles, they are unfallen beings, we are fallen angles.

Really, what did they trip over then? I mean how come they fell?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda, your thinking will greatly interest psyachatrists, what you say reveal a lot of what they are learned to recognized in their school as mental illness, paranoia and many other things

The isea of fate, "deserveness" etc... you are insane
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
None of them studied it, as could be said, "soul occupying body", that is spritiual exists before material, but they studied as "body occupying soul".

As we can only measure the physical we cannot do anything but study behaviour. And when doing so, it appears that there are logical reproducable conclusions that do not need unprovable explanations like your body-soul contraptions.
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nixnut wrote:
petrjanda wrote:
Souls that never had incarnations are called Angles, they are unfallen beings, we are fallen angles.

Really, what did they trip over then? I mean how come they fell?

They tripped over their own ego and self-centredness, which grew as free will was given to them.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we're on the subject. Anybody got an opinion on metaphysical pornography?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nixnut wrote:
petrjanda wrote:
None of them studied it, as could be said, "soul occupying body", that is spritiual exists before material, but they studied as "body occupying soul".

As we can only measure the physical we cannot do anything but study behaviour. And when doing so, it appears that there are logical reproducable conclusions that do not need unprovable explanations like your body-soul contraptions.

It just depends on their level of consciousness.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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While we're on the subject. Anybody got an opinion on metaphysical pornography?


ROFL!
No?
Never heard about it...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
nixnut wrote:
petrjanda wrote:
Souls that never had incarnations are called Angles, they are unfallen beings, we are fallen angles.

Really, what did they trip over then? I mean how come they fell?

They tripped over their own ego and self-centredness, which grew as free will was given to them.

And they cannot help but trip over their ego and self-centredness of course. Otherwise we'd run out of souls and the human race would stop growing. And what is the ultimate end? Are these souls doomed to be reincarnated in human bodies? Or do they become angels again and then trip again etc etc etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nixnut wrote:
While we're on the subject. Anybody got an opinion on metaphysical pornography?


ROFL!
No?
Never heard about it...

Erik

Oh, come on! Never had a brainfuck?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
nixnut wrote:
petrjanda wrote:
None of them studied it, as could be said, "soul occupying body", that is spritiual exists before material, but they studied as "body occupying soul".

As we can only measure the physical we cannot do anything but study behaviour. And when doing so, it appears that there are logical reproducable conclusions that do not need unprovable explanations like your body-soul contraptions.

It just depends on their level of consciousness.

Could you elaborate on this?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The morality discussion is way off topic. Not to mention inappropriate attacks from various posters.
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