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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:23 am    Post subject: Emerge KDE elapse time Reply with quote

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I'm in the middle of my first GenToo install, and like to say this website, forum and docs have been a great help. I just like to know how long the emerge kde is going to take? It's been running for like 8 hours now.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

r u serious? holy shit. k, next :?: is it bad that i did emerge kde first after my first reboot (ie. just finished grub install).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kde takes forever to compile from source; it's a huge package of stuff plus qt-based things tend to take longer to compile normally.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kde takes forever to compile from source; it's a huge package of stuff plus qt-based things tend to take longer to compile normally.


not qt-based things, but anything C++ (mozilla, openoffice, kde, etc..)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, I'm new to gentoo, but this is getting nuts, the emerge has been going for 30 hours now.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok, I'm new to gentoo, but this is getting nuts, the emerge has been going for 30 hours now.


You're probably emerging the dependencies too. Did you emerge xfree86 beforehand? If not it'll emerge that too. That's the only dependency I know of off the top of my head, but there's probably more.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, i emerged and configured xfree86 before I started the kde emerge.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the same on a PII 400Mhz and it took around 50-60 hours.

Yes, you are using ancient hardware and the time it takes will reflect that.

I emerged KDE on a P4 2.8ghz with Hyperthreading and a distcc farm of other P4's and had KDE up and running in a couple of hours.

It's all about hardware and memory...
You might have been better off using GRP or even KDE-CVS 20040329 builds are out (which are also binaries) rather than going from source.

Anyhow, welcome to Gentoo :)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

will the extras i put in the USE statement affect how long it takes?

there were only like 4 or 5 variable in the support docs, but mine looks like this:

USE="-gtk -gnome qt kde cdr samba apache2 emacs-w3 imap mmx mysql perl"
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

too long
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another reason to hate kde. :twisted: :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am new to linux and every single thing here....... i SOMEHOW managed to install Gentoo [gentoo sources kernel] on my pc, and now i ran KDE< and the FUCKING THING is just TOO FUCKING LONG!

i mean, WHAT THE FUCK?!

i just wanna see how it looks on gentoo

holy shit man...... its so gay

and i didnt emerge the Xfree........ holy mother of zombie jesus man!

btw, i stopped it, and do u know.... will it continue where it stopped?

cuz that way at least 'll do it in PARTS of the day..... cuz i got only one pc.....


sorry for lame questions, but i am reallly anoob around here......

and btw, is gnome faster and at least decent for desktop?

please recommend sumthing faster but useful for desktop use...
i mean....... this KDE shit is just tooooooooooo gay



btw, P3 600 MHz, 384 ram and 3 GB partition for root...... is that enuff for this KDE?

damn i havent seen Linux different than that RedHat, and i already start hating this shit........... :(((((9

this is realllllly gay!


sorry for bad language but thats just how i feel
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not our fault you're an imparient; lazy kde user..

Read the forums.. it says every other thread kde takes about 30 hours to compile. :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orcrist, gnome is faster to compile, at least... And, no, the compile will NOT resume unless you stopped it with ctrl-z. KDE takes a long time, that's just a fact of life.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnome is way faster to complie than KDE :)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my laptop, emerging kde from source took an entire weekend.
On my pc/server I emerged gnome in an hour or so.

(first one is a p4 2,53Ghz with 256Mb of Ram, second one is a p4 2,8Ghz prescott with 1024Mb of Ram (and u320 scsi disk))

Kde is really nice if you want to impress some windows users with a lot of neat options. If, on the other hand you don't want anything fancy and just want things to be simple and good, I suggest gnome.

ps: If you want a fast install, use prebuilt packages. (but if you want to feel the strength of gentoo, you obviously need to compile it yourself)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it finished finally. took ~32-36 hours (finished sometime while I was asleep last night). I edited rc.conf and rebooted. And booya...kde up and going no problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orcrist wrote:
i am new to linux and every single thing here....... i SOMEHOW managed to install Gentoo [gentoo sources kernel] on my pc, and now i ran KDE< and the FUCKING THING is just TOO FUCKING LONG!

i mean, WHAT THE FUCK?!

i just wanna see how it looks on gentoo

holy shit man...... its so gay

and i didnt emerge the Xfree........ holy mother of zombie jesus man!

btw, i stopped it, and do u know.... will it continue where it stopped?

cuz that way at least 'll do it in PARTS of the day..... cuz i got only one pc.....


sorry for lame questions, but i am reallly anoob around here......

and btw, is gnome faster and at least decent for desktop?

please recommend sumthing faster but useful for desktop use...
i mean....... this KDE shit is just tooooooooooo gay



btw, P3 600 MHz, 384 ram and 3 GB partition for root...... is that enuff for this KDE?

damn i havent seen Linux different than that RedHat, and i already start hating this shit........... :(((((9

this is realllllly gay!


sorry for bad language but thats just how i feel


If you are going to continue to use a language such as yours, I suggest you drop Gentoo altogether. This is not a place to use the language you do. I guess it puts you around 13-15 years old. Please go and read the Forum Guidlines if you have a problem understanding what and how to say things. If you still can't moderate your language, then don't post!.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm kind of offended by that post..

I'm 15 years old and haven't once acted like that (in the way curseing and over-all rudeness.. ) :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miqorz, it's kind of a rectangle/square thing. You can be 15 and not act like Orcrist, but if you act like Orcrist, you are probably 15.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miqorz wrote:
Just another reason to hate kde. :twisted: :lol:


no, just another reason to hate g++.. KDE isn't that much bigger in lines of code than GNOME or the Linux Kernel (actually, depending on how much of the kernel you compile, and what KDE packages you compile, the linux kernel is bigger)

Anyway, I suggest using binary builds of KDE.. you can have it installed in minutes. Both Iamlarryboy and Gentoo provide binary builds of KDE.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miqorz wrote:
I'm kind of offended by that post..

I'm 15 years old and haven't once acted like that (in the way curseing and over-all rudeness.. ) :roll:


I apologize, but I haven't seen you use such language as the poster did.
But the way he writes, is just not tolerated here and is in no way going to get him much help or answers other than what I posted.

In OTW, there is a little bit more tolerance with regards to language, but not in the other forums.

His post may have been fine on a board of with similary minded poeple, but not here.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's allright and all.. I just don't like it when people make generalizations about people based on their age..

Some of us 15 year olds have a good head on our shoulders... I just wish I was one of them. :P
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