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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: Looking for online calendar and addressbook Reply with quote

I'm looking for two applications. I've tested a few but, have not been overly impressed. Can anyone share suggestions or experiences:

Addressbook
Must have:
Web based
Mysql (I hope to have mutt query for email addresses)
Nice to have:
Perl based instead of PHP.

Calendar
Must have:
Web based
Email reminders
Nice to have:
Mysql
Perl based instead of PHP

Anyone?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why not php? i mean, really php is probably all your going to find, coupled with some perl scripts to "glue" it all together..

I know of one application, horde, which has add-ins for webmail, calendar, addressbook, notes, tasks whatever. i use it for the companies dial-in customers for their email.

take a look at freshmeat.net to see if you can find what you looking for.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would prefer not to use PHP for two reasons. I already have my webserver running mod_perl and HTML::Mason and would prefer not to add PHP to the mix. Also, there are instances of security problems with PHP and the way certain developers require it to be configured (register_globals = ON comes to mind).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true but not everything requires the globals to be set to on..

adding php to mix isn't all that difficult..

http://freshmeat.net/redir/mycalendar/16743/url_homepage/perl
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried MyCalendar. It is OK. Multiday events is a missing feature.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horde is pretty close to what you're looking for. Other than being PHP based, I think it has everything else you want.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still not crazy about PHP but the Horde system does look nice. I like the way everything available in modules so that you can pick and choose what you need. Would anyone care to share their experiences with Horde, specifically Truba and Kronolith)?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PloneWebMail has a nice addressbook similar to what Sqwebmail does. I use it and extended it a lot to customize to my needs.

Another alternative to get PloneAddressBook, but I haven't tried this one.

Plone has some simple calendaring by default. It can be extended in a way you want. For example you can publish tasks from CMFCollectorNG (in portage).

Or you can download a bit more advanced PloneCalendar. But if you really need a group-based collaboratibe calendaring then take ZGC.

Or did I told you that in Plobe (as in all Zope) you program using very well designed document and object -oriented models using Python. But in many cases you extend functionality without even programming, just using it's content-management interface. It's easy to start and power to go with.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject: Horde, the good, the bad and the ugly Reply with quote

I've been trying out Horde for almost a week now. I use only the Turba and Kronolith modules.

The good:
Web based application means all my data is stored centrally for access from any web browser.
Horde's modular nature allows me to install only the features I need. In my case I have only an addressbook and calendar without task lists, or webmail.
Offers many options on how and where to store your data. In my case it is all mysql.

The bad:
Setup is painful. I think better documentation is needed.
Login is via password but without ssl for encryption. I am working on enabling this on my webserver.
Turba, the addressbook appliation, lacks the ability to have multiple email addresses for a single addressbook entry. They have a work around using distribution lists but, it is not ideal.

The ugly:
I'm a mod_perl HTML::Mason fan. To me php always seems slower.
The default theme and available themes are all scary. Dark backgrounds and light text are very common and hard to read. This combination cause error messages (which default to normal black text) to be unreadable on a dark purple background. I spent to much time debugging before I noticed these hidden error messages.

References:
http://www.horde.org/
http://www.horde.org/projects.php
http://www.horde.org/themes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject: openwebmail Reply with quote

have you looked into openwebmail?

it's written in perl, and from what i hear is pretty nice.

i really don't understand your problem with php, but whatever, im sure you have your reasons.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My main problem with PHP is lazy developers who use PHP with register_globals=on. This is a large security risk.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neilhwatson wrote:
My main problem with PHP is lazy developers who use PHP with register_globals=on. This is a large security risk.


If you are installing PHP on your server, and you are setting register_globals to off, how can what other people are doing with theirs be a security risk to you?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way an application is programmed determines whether or not register_globals needs to be on or off. That choice is made for you by the developers since having this setting off, when the developer coded with it on, means that the application will not work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

horde is really not that good in my opinion... searching for online calendar and addressbook, too... but i'd prefer php dann perl ;)

i haven't seen an script which requires register globals enabled for quite a very long time...
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