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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xorg-x11 compiles and seems to run OK for me on amd64

Anybody tried using the synaptics driver with this X server?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just works. No nuttiness with the fglrx (ati) driver. It just works. Looks the same as XFree -- but it isn't XFree, so it stisfies my requirements.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got a problem with xkb, could you guys look into my thread?
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=158768
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid prelink, after doing 'emerge -C xfree' and then trying to do emerge xorg-x11, I get a bunch of errors. Now I'm bootstrapping and recompiling all the base files that depended on the X11 librairies. Save yourself a lot of time and frustration, unprelink everything before uninstalling xfree.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the process of upgrading to Xorg, I've somehow managed to lose my Nvidia driver. Some relevent portions of my Xorg.log:

Code:
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
        compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.4496
        Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
        ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension GLX
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(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)


So nvidia-glx is ok, but the nvidia-kernel driver can't be found. However:

Code:
*/var/log# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by    Tainted: P
nvidia               1627328   0  (unused)


I've tried re-emerging nvidia-kernel, but that doesn't help.Relevent portions of my xorg.conf:

Code:
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "NVIDIA Geforce4"
#    Driver      "nv"
    Driver      "nvidia"
EndSection


Is there anything that I might, stupidly, be forgetting to do?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frustreren wrote:

Is there anything that I might, stupidly, be forgetting to do?


Maybe old module was never unloaded. You may need to reboot if you don't have module unloading in kernel or nvidia is unloadable.

Code:

# rmmod nvidia
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried removing and the inserting the module and rebooting. Neither corrected the problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww crap.

I finally get it all compiled, and everything's all happy, then I try to restart X. This is about what I get (I'm on my friend's laptop that I borrowed, so not an exact copy).

Fatal server error:
Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices.

I didn't even compile framebuffer support into my kernel...

I have no idea how to solve this, and it's kinda crucial to my computer working again, any ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you configure it properly. Try copying /etc/X11/XF86Config(-4) to xorg.conf and restarting. I bet its just having problems with the config file. I had to actually copy it to xorg.conf to get mine to work.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I'm back up and running everything's good now, just had to copy the configuration file over. Actually figured that out by accident before I saw this, but it's kind of annoying because it says it should work either way.

So far, it all looks good, haven't noticed any huge differences, but some fonts are screwy. I'll fix that later though, if I can be bothered :-p.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:13 am    Post subject: Opps Reply with quote

Err, scratch that last post.

Two problems, kinda really annoying ones at that.

1) X.org doesn't know that my computer has Win keys. Not too bad, but annoying cause I use them for Juk.

2) X.org doesn't know what to do with the 5 button (well, 7 button) mouse I have. The scroll wheel works fine, but neither of the side buttons even register a response. This may be a limitation in imwheel, but in any case it's something that needs to be looked into with way more detail than I know how to.

I'll try to find some more stuff out about those problems, but don't expect much tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah....successfully transformed from xfree to xorg-x11.... :D, nothing special though.
Code:

emerge corefonts

to get back all the m$ free fonts.
If you are using ati-drivers in xfree, 'opengl-update xorg-x11' will enable it in xorg-x11.

Some problems:
I forgot how to make the X initiation screen black instead of gray. Anybody remember?
If you try to emerge ati-drivers, gentoo will install xfree first.
I tried to play quake3 to test DRI. It was running, but the rendering is not quite right. Some texts and details missed. Don't know why.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious, how long to compile?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got xorg running but portage wants to download xfree again...
Code:

root@TNT dog # emerge -up --deep world
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild     UD] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.22 [2.6.4]
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.8.7 [1.8.6.13-r1]
[ebuild  N    ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r5
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.6 [0.5]

Anyone?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ petrjanda

I just injected xfree.

Code:
emerge inject x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r5

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

revertex wrote:
Just curious, how long to compile?

less than 1 hour for me (P-M 1.4G/5400 RPM HD/512M DDR)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, seems faster than xfree!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've compiled xorg-x11 successfully on my hp ze4288 and it seems to run quite nice. had to fix the weird portage bug after emerge -C xfree but that wasn't a big thing.
would be quite nice if the'd somehow merge with the X-server project to finally get real transparency on the linux desktop :)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulisdead wrote:
@ petrjanda

I just injected xfree.

Code:
emerge inject x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r5

now i get this
Code:

root@TNT dog # emerge inject x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r5
!!! BAD COUNTER in 'x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r5'
>>> Injected x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r5.

sounds right?
what do i do to undo inject?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakes wrote:
i've compiled xorg-x11 successfully on my hp ze4288 and it seems to run quite nice. had to fix the weird portage bug after emerge -C xfree but that wasn't a big thing.
would be quite nice if the'd somehow merge with the X-server project to finally get real transparency on the linux desktop :)

it will be a while before we see an alpha version of K. Packard's Xserver, since there is no chance Xorg and Xserver would merge, that would destroy the whole purpose of the Xserver project.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The injection gave me the same error but it seemed to work. Before when I did an emerge -DUp world it would show I needed xfree. After that injection no longer.

Anyhow here are some problems if people are interested.

1. You have to inject xfree.
2. ATI: for me to start X (especially via /etc/init.d/xdm) I have to make sure I have opengl-update xorg-x11 set. Once X starts and I log in, I have to reset it within my X to opengl-update ati to get opengl working. Bleh. If I reboot and I forget to set openg-update xorg-x11, X will hang and I cannot even kill it without doing a kill -9. So looks like the ati drivers do work with some caveats. Not really great.
3. The startup screen on X is grey? Damn haven't seen that in years. Anyone know hot to change it to black?
4. Had to re-emerge all my fonts (core-fonts, sharefonts, freefonts, etc).
5. Had to copy XFree86Conf to xorg.conf. Wish this was said in the ebuild. Took me a bit to find that since the ati-drivers write to XFree86Conf-4 which is skipped by xorg's X.

So those are my pet peeves. If I had to do it again, I wouldn't. Until at least some of those issues are worked out.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ultrasonic wrote:

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2. ATI: for me to start X (especially via /etc/init.d/xdm) I have to make sure I have opengl-update xorg-x11 set. Once X starts and I log in, I have to reset it within my X to opengl-update ati to get opengl working. Bleh. If I reboot and I forget to set openg-update xorg-x11, X will hang and I cannot even kill it without doing a kill -9. So looks like the ati drivers do work with some caveats. Not really great.
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hmm....after I did that my quake3 works properly....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:

what do i do to undo inject?


I would think emerge -C xfree would automatically get rid of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ultrasonic wrote:
The injection gave me the same error but it seemed to work. Before when I did an emerge -DUp world it would show I needed xfree. After that injection no longer.

Anyhow here are some problems if people are interested.

1. You have to inject xfree.
2. ATI: for me to start X (especially via /etc/init.d/xdm) I have to make sure I have opengl-update xorg-x11 set. Once X starts and I log in, I have to reset it within my X to opengl-update ati to get opengl working. Bleh. If I reboot and I forget to set openg-update xorg-x11, X will hang and I cannot even kill it without doing a kill -9. So looks like the ati drivers do work with some caveats. Not really great.
3. The startup screen on X is grey? Damn haven't seen that in years. Anyone know hot to change it to black?
4. Had to re-emerge all my fonts (core-fonts, sharefonts, freefonts, etc).
5. Had to copy XFree86Conf to xorg.conf. Wish this was said in the ebuild. Took me a bit to find that since the ati-drivers write to XFree86Conf-4 which is skipped by xorg's X.

So those are my pet peeves. If I had to do it again, I wouldn't. Until at least some of those issues are worked out.

i can tell you it AINT much better with installing Xfree86 4.4 from the sources you can find on their website. After i tried to ugprade to v4.4 i thought i will end up reinstalling whole gentoo, because it b0rked the whole thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't notice a difference, but I wasn't expecting one anyways. Can't wait to see where xorg will take us.
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