Gaim 0.76 is out

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NuclearFusi0n · Post by **NuclearFusi0n** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:09 am

Lots of improvements
http://gaim.sf.net/

Spawn of Lovechild · Post by **Spawn of Lovechild** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:18 am

Don't miss this once in a lifetime chanc to obtain Sean's DNA.

snakattak3 · Post by **snakattak3** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:35 am

Spawn of Lovechild wrote:Don't miss this once in a lifetime chanc to obtain Sean's DNA.

I saw the bloody rag. I think I'll pass.

gurke · Post by **gurke** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:50 am

lol, from gaims website:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3906163514

ed0n · Post by **ed0n** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:32 pm

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46583
/me is waiting for the ebuild.

mirko_3 · Post by **mirko_3** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:36 pm

changelog isnt' updated yet, is it?
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog

cbr · Post by **cbr** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:26 pm

mirko_3 wrote:changelog isnt' updated yet, is it?
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog

Download the source, changelog is in it.

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:28 pm

lol I'll pass on the DNA.

charlieg · Post by **charlieg** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:58 pm

From the bug: "gaim-0.76 is now in portage."

guy · Post by **guy** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:16 pm

gaim changelog wrote: * WYSIWYG text input (with much help from Gary Kramlich and Kevin Stange)

!!!!!!!

Lews_Therin · Post by **Lews_Therin** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:48 pm

LOL, the E-Bay things are obviously an April Fool's joke, but I hope 0.76 stays around.

aethyr · Post by **aethyr** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 6:02 pm

Relive history with this treasury of Gaim releases. From it's early days as a crappy TOC client to it's current incarnation as a crappy TOC client with a few extra features, this is your chance to "walk down memory lane".

I actually don't think they're April Fools tricks, I think they're actually trying to drum up some money. I'm thinking of bidding on the Rugrat's napkin myself...

F16PilotJumper · Post by **F16PilotJumper** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:54 pm

I like the message at the top of the ebuild that basically tells me that I'm not allowed to ask for help upstream at all.

That's real cool.

mastergoon · Post by **mastergoon** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:02 pm

F16PilotJumper wrote:I like the message at the top of the ebuild that basically tells me that I'm not allowed to ask for help upstream at all.

That's real cool.

you can say all you want about the gaim devs being jerks not providing you with support, but the fact is, this is free software, just be glad they put their time into making it.

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:09 pm

mastergoon wrote:you can say all you want about the gaim devs being jerks not providing you with support, but the fact is, this is free software, just be glad they put their time into making it.

Well, it makes their free software less worth it.

I'm switching to Gossip as soon as it supports AIM.

Epyon · Post by **Epyon** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:10 pm

I'm not a big fan of the new scroll bar that seems to serve no purpose.
http://www.fpscentral.com/uploads/gaim67scroll.png

Spawn of Lovechild · Post by **Spawn of Lovechild** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:15 pm

Hypnos wrote:
mastergoon wrote:you can say all you want about the gaim devs being jerks not providing you with support, but the fact is, this is free software, just be glad they put their time into making it.
Well, it makes their free software less worth it.

I'm switching to Gossip as soon as it supports AIM.

Next major release I think.. most of the code should be in place.

mastergoon · Post by **mastergoon** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:21 pm

choice is good

all im saying is, its hardly fair to get too angry over lack of "tech support" for a free product. in a profit project, the actual developers almost never have to deal with customers directly on tech issues, there is usually someone in the middle providing that service (often the publisher). the fact is its usually just dumb users, which can be very frustrating and developers have better things to do.

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:33 pm

mastergoon wrote:choice is good

all im saying is, its hardly fair to get too angry over lack of "tech support" for a free product. in a profit project, the actual developers almost never have to deal with customers directly on tech issues, there is usually someone in the middle providing that service (often the publisher). the fact is its usually just dumb users, which can be very frustrating and developers have better things to do.

This doesn't change the fact that one invests time in using an app, even if it's free, and is therefore rightly pissed if the developers make it harder to use the app after the fact with their dickish behavior.

Same goes for Foser, the Gentoo GNOME maintainer.

Moofed · Post by **Moofed** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:04 am

Epyon wrote:I'm not a big fan of the new scroll bar that seems to serve no purpose.
http://www.fpscentral.com/uploads/gaim67scroll.png

I think you simply have some text that is slightly too long for the window to display. So technically, it does serve a purpose, otherwise it would not show.

binaryjono · Post by **binaryjono** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:04 am

Hypnos wrote: This doesn't change the fact that one invests time in using an app, even if it's free, and is therefore rightly pissed if the developers make it harder to use the app after the fact with their dickish behavior.

Same goes for Foser, the Gentoo GNOME maintainer.

pissed? fair enough, but don't take it out on the developers. if you dont like it, don't use it. or if you don't like a new feature, use an old version or take out the code in the new version. or if you're so pissed that you can't stand it, fork it. don't like foser's gnome ebuilds? write your own!

but don't direct your frustration at the developers who are putting loads of time and effort into FOSS when they don't follow your every wish.

echo'ing mastergoon, choice is good!

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:11 am

binaryjono wrote:
Hypnos wrote: This doesn't change the fact that one invests time in using an app, even if it's free, and is therefore rightly pissed if the developers make it harder to use the app after the fact with their dickish behavior.

Same goes for Foser, the Gentoo GNOME maintainer.
pissed? fair enough, but don't take it out on the developers. if you dont like it, don't use it. [...]

I try, where I can. Unfortunately, there is only one Gentoo, and the movement to depose Foser is lukewarm at best. I am planning on switching from GAIM to Gossip as soon as AIM is supported, as I have described.

joem · Post by **joem** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:13 am

binaryjono wrote:
Hypnos wrote: This doesn't change the fact that one invests time in using an app, even if it's free, and is therefore rightly pissed if the developers make it harder to use the app after the fact with their dickish behavior.

Same goes for Foser, the Gentoo GNOME maintainer.
pissed? fair enough, but don't take it out on the developers. if you dont like it, don't use it. or if you don't like a new feature, use an old version or take out the code in the new version. or if you're so pissed that you can't stand it, fork it. don't like foser's gnome ebuilds? write your own!

I agree..shutup. Until you produce something that people can use, nobody wants to hear your complaining. Even if you did produce something useful,I still don't want to hear your complaining.
What examples do you have to backup your statements that gaim has gotten harder to use overtime as a result of developers?

joem · Post by **joem** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:17 am

Hypnos wrote: I try, where I can. Unfortunately, there is only one Gentoo, and the movement to depose Foser is lukewarm at best. I am planning on switching from GAIM to Gossip as soon as AIM is supported, as I have described.

What movement to depose foser? If you think that a lead dev will get removed because they are quick to inform somebody (probably like yourself) when they ask a dumb question..then you should probably be more concerend with something else.

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:19 am

dst wrote:I agree..shutup. Until you produce something that people can use, nobody wants to hear your complaining. Even if you did produce something useful,I still don't want to hear your complaining.

Phew

I was about to post my CV.

What examples do you have to backup your statements that gaim has gotten harder to use overtime as a result of developers?

If you can't file a bug report simply because you use Gentoo, that makes GAIM harder to use; if you can't submit bug reports simply because you've used BMG ebuilds in the past, that makes Gentoo harder to use.