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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 9:13 pm    Post subject: Problems with Natsemi module & Athlon CPU Reply with quote

Hi,

I've been installing Gentoo 1.2 on my computer the last few days
with mixed results. My computer has an Athlon XP 1800+,
1 Gb DDR RAM, an ATI-Radeon8500DV graphics card and a
Netgear FA311 network card.

So I got Gentoo running, and the network connection up using the
natsemi module. However when I tried to get the Desktop going,
"emerge kde" exit exited with the error:

checking for mcopidl ... not found. Econf failed, Line 9, Exit code 1.

Then I noticed that when compiling my kernel I had left the
CPU type set to Pentium III. I thought this might be the root of the
problem so I set the CPU type (in make menuconfig) to Athlon.
Recompiled, mounted /boot, and copied bzImage to /boot.
Now however the network module "natsemi" won't load.
"make modules_install" gives the following error.

/lib/modules/2.4.19-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/net/natsemi.o:
unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy
:insmod natsemi failed.

Just to check that I didn't change anything else I reset the
kernel CPU settings to "pentium III", and the network connection
worked again.

Any ideas on either problem (network, kde)??

Thanks
-Danny
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Problems with Natsemi module & Athlon CPU Reply with quote

dciwalsh wrote:
checking for mcopidl ... not found. Econf failed, Line 9, Exit code 1.

I don't use KDE, but searching the forums for 'mcopidl' found a bunch of threads about arts. Can you try emerging arts manually first, and see if that fixes your error?

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/lib/modules/2.4.19-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/net/natsemi.o:
unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy
:insmod natsemi failed.

This one sounds familiar...is it the same issue as in here? I think the workaround was to compile as a P3 like you did, but this might help explain things. I used "_mmx_memcpy" as my search term to find this.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Problems with Natsemi module & Athlon CPU Reply with quote

dciwalsh wrote:

Recompiled, mounted /boot, and copied bzImage to /boot.
Now however the network module "natsemi" won't load.
"make modules_install" gives the following error.

/lib/modules/2.4.19-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/net/natsemi.o:
unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy
:insmod natsemi failed.


I think it is a dependency-problem...

Did you make again a "make modules" before "make modules_install" and after "make bzimage" ????
The correct order should be:

Change CPU-Type to Athlon,

make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install

Then copy bzImage to /boot

I hope this will solve your problem...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it seems like the fix for the network problem is
to compile the kernel as a Pentium III.
Am I right in thinking this won't cause any other
problems?

Re. Kde. I did do "make modules" before
"make modules_install".

I'll try emerging arts first, although I don't think it
complained about it. After quitting with an error
when I ran "emerge kde". If I run it again
(emerge kde) the initial output says...

/usr/sbin/ebuild.sh: qtver-from-kdever command not found
reeet-qt: command not found
set-kdedir: command not found

Then it seems to run until it quits with the econf error.

Are these "command not found"s something to worry
about?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:37 pm    Post subject: kde not installing: mcopidl error Reply with quote

I just got kde to install by:

emerge alsa
emerge arts
emerge kde
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dciwalsh wrote:
So it seems like the fix for the network problem is to compile the kernel as a Pentium III.

That's my understanding, for now. I can understand sputnik1969's intuition, but I think it crashed to earth in this situation. It looks like a dependency problem, but I think it's really a driver bug.
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Am I right in thinking this won't cause any other problems?

I looked into this a while back...the only thing I could find that was Athlon-specific was a specialized MMX implementation of a couple of core memory manager routines. You will experience a performance hit of an unknown (probably not very significant) amount, but that should be the only difference.
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