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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, just wondering if anyone has the answer to my question regarding nice'ing and nick's scheduler... I'd like to give these a try but performance in games is also quite important.

Thanks ! :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@sklettke: well, i think i found the error, i forgot to kick "append hdd=ide-scsi" out of my lilo.conf ... shame on me :oops:
despite this, thx for your quick reply!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MG-Cloud wrote:
Hi, just wondering if anyone has the answer to my question regarding nice'ing and nick's scheduler... I'd like to give these a try but performance in games is also quite important.

Thanks ! :)

This was from earlier in this thread. Don't let it discurage you from trying though. At one time I had 4 kernels :)
Steel300 wrote:
There's no need to renice X. Nick's scheduler takes care of all of the renicing for us, depending on interactivity
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange things happen for me with this kernel.
No network, and no sound...
NForce2 network card, using forcedeth driver (from -mm), and getting constant:
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NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out

messages in my logs. Last kernel I tried (2.6.1-love5) works absolutely fine...
Sound gives no error, just everything that tries to use it (arts, quake3, xmms) hangs. Doesn't matter if I use my intel8x0 (ASUS A7N8X non-deluxe) or Soundblaster Audigy.

Anyone got an idea what's going on?
Anyone else with one of these things got it working? Using GCC 3.4, but I used the same GCC (same snapshot) to build the other kernel, so that can't be the problem...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still no luck finding out why my machine locks up. It freezes as soon as it starts decompressing the kernel. The screen just stays black. Keyboard is non-responsive. Maybe its some ACPI patch.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fca wrote:
Strange things happen for me with this kernel.
No network, and no sound...
NForce2 network card, using forcedeth driver (from -mm), and getting constant:
Quote:

NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out

messages in my logs. Last kernel I tried (2.6.1-love5) works absolutely fine...
Sound gives no error, just everything that tries to use it (arts, quake3, xmms) hangs. Doesn't matter if I use my intel8x0 (ASUS A7N8X non-deluxe) or Soundblaster Audigy.

Anyone got an idea what's going on?
Anyone else with one of these things got it working? Using GCC 3.4, but I used the same GCC (same snapshot) to build the other kernel, so that can't be the problem...


Try setting PCI access mode to direct in bus options...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fca wrote:
Strange things happen for me with this kernel.
[...]

Try setting PCI access mode to direct in bus options...

Thanks! Works perfectly now.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love4 locked up, so back to Love1... :?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PrakashKC wrote:
Love4 locked up, so back to Love1... :?


PrakashKC have you added anything to the patchset that might effect the acpi. It seems weird to me that I have it functioning here, while you seem to be having difficulty.

I suggest if you already arn't doing so to leave out "sleep states" from the acpi menu. I've never choosen that as an option because of all the other problems surrounding the apci/acpi lockups.

I hope that the future kernel release can fix what ails yah. :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I might give it a try. But love1 with above option runs fine - till now. Hopefully it will do furthermore. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi I'm noob with gentoo (not wiith linux) .. can any tell me what is the love-sources (obvious a kernel) who develop it, features, get latest version, etc?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

love-sources is like wolk but using 2.6 as its base instead of 2.4 and its still in active development unlike (i'm assuming from the looks of it) WOLK, its basically any kernel patch out there that works and follows kernel coding standards has a chance to be included here, right now you can find out what features are included by looking in the first post in the thread and steel300 is the current maintainer and there is a link to get an ebuild for the latest version which you can put in your $PORTDIR_OVERLAY directory where $PORTDIR_OVERLAY is the value for that variable in /etc/make.conf, if its commented out (has a # character before it) just delete it and mkdir /usr/local/portage then /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel and then /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/love-sources then run ebuild /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/love-sources/love-sources-2.6.2_rc2-r1.ebuild digest then emerge love-sources.

i'm going to write a guide to installing love-sources so that no one ever has to write a post like this ever again, i will edit this post with a link when i'm done.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aamonten wrote:
Hi I'm noob with gentoo (not wiith linux) .. can any tell me what is the love-sources (obvious a kernel) who develop it, features, get latest version, etc?


love-sources is a kernel patchset. I am the current maintainer. It's whole purpose is a testing ground for desktop enhancements to the linux kernel. We currently test a new scheduler, reiser4, and lots of other goodies. Read the notes on the first page to see what's included and where to get the latest version.

EDIT: Evil Dark Archon beat me to it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds great, I'm gonna try it.. thanks guys
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished my short and sweet love installation guide, you can find it here and i also decided to put up a low bandwidth mirror to be used only if any other mirrors are down, you can find it here, i modified the ebuild to download from my mirror.

*EDIT: anyone willing to mirror the guide is welcome to, make sure to preserve the copyright line. I also welcome any suggestions on clarity if necessary, if a new version is necessary than i will either update this post or make an entirely new thread.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
XML Parsing Error: junk after document element
Location: http://love.andrewnelson.org/guide/
Line Number 6, Column 3:

 <br />
--^


that's all i get when i try to look at your guide :|
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm..
This kernel swaps out a lot for me. I see the mouse getting jerky, and I see no memory free. Maybe it has something todo with the new swappiness? I'm going to test this more thoroughly, but has anyone else seen this behaviour?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry for any parsing errors, i was using quanta with the xhtml 1.0 transitional dtd, i will fix it asap. btw, -rc3-mm1 is out and there is discussion on lkml about getting reiser4 into -mm which is good news.

*UPDATE* guide fixed, converted to html 4.01 transitional, if its still broken, contact me, i only tested the guide initially in konqueror so it was probably a browser problem but i'm not going to force a specific browser on anyone so i have fixed it.

*UPDATE 2* just tested it in konqueror, safari, camino and galeon compiled with mozilla 1.6 and the guide worked on all of them, if anyone has anymore problems, either reply to this thread, pm me, or e-mail me.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rc3-mm1 is out

Edit: hähä, I'm a guru now...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup, works fine now. i got it to work before
by just removing the first line which tried to
force it to be seen as xml :wink:
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Evil Dark Archon

I wonder why you don't use simple standard HTML for that tiny text page... Looking into the sources it doesn't look like this.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A note about -rc3-mm1 and x86_64:
I just tried to compile, and it died.

I removed the imports of mm.h and security.h from arch/x86_64/ia32_binfmt.c and reversed compat-signal-noarch-2004-01-29.patch,
seems to compile now.
Does someone experience similar problems?

*edit*: won't compile with SMP enabled, complains about references to migrate_task_to_cpu
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it might be worth a notice that Con Kolivas has released his own "Desktop Performance Patchset". This includes a bunch of scheduler patches, and support for i/o priority settings.

Post at kerneltrap.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MG-Cloud wrote:
Hi, just wondering if anyone has the answer to my question regarding nice'ing and nick's scheduler... I'd like to give these a try but performance in games is also quite important.

Thanks ! :)


There is a slight problem with nice even in the vanilla kernels where it doesn't produce a predicable alteration of the actual priority.

I know that Nick at some point had a problem of the same nature with his scheduler but if it still exists I dunno.

The guidelines for the "old school" Nick scheduler is, X reniced to -10 everything else left at defaults - avoid -20 since it's EXTREMELY unfair.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Master_Of_Disaster wrote:
rc3-mm1 is out

Edit: hähä, I'm a guru now...


**OFF_TOPIC**

Does your guru'ness go up based on the number of posts you make?

(Edit:) Oops, must do. I'm tux's little helper now - cool!
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