Which Shell?

TJNII · l33t Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Posts: 637 Location: for(;;);

You can have a C shell?
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UltraN00B · Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:59 am Post subject:

as far as I know there are both csh and tcsh which have some pretty neat functionality. csh is aka C shell I believe.
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stonent · Veteran Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas

tcsh is to csh as bash is to sh

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NoUseForAName · Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:36 am Post subject:

I am a bash user, but I have heard a lot of good things about zsh, and I think I'm going to try it out soon.

http://www.linux-mag.com/2002-05/power_01.html looks interesting

ILikePi · Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject:

Anior · Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:41 pm Post subject:

bash surely is nice, even if i use the supertiny ash for bootdisk and other size critical usages.

paridel · n00b Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 17

First of all csh == C Shell.

I have been using tcsh as my shell for many many years. My .cshrc and .mytcsh files are quite large and elaborate... my .mytcsh file was first started at least six years ago, possibly more. So maybe I use tcsh mostly because I have been for so long.

I have done a lot of bourne shell (sh) scripting. I always liked csh scripting more than sh, but so other people could use/modify scripts I would write them in sh. But.... now I do anything I would have done with shell scripting with Perl instead. Perl kicks butt.

But anyway, please notice that "Csh programming considered harmful" was written in '96. I believe there have been a number of changes to the tcsh and csh since then. If you notice some of the examples are just pointing out bugs in the implementation. Then some of the other examples are just 'csh uses a differant syntax and that is bad'. For example quotes are treated differantly, but not nessisarily worse. And then some of the complaints are probably valid. :-)

But who cares? If you need to write scripts for the bourne shell then that's fine, but you can still use a shell besides bash for your command line. I find tcsh easier to customize (maybe just cause I'm used to it) so I use it.

I don't want to get into a religious war here but I think that one of the main reasons that bash was written is that RMS didn't like the liceanse that the tcsh shell (and other good shells) were released under. tcsh uses the berkely liceanse I think.... anyway, I'm not complaining because a little competition is good for everyone.

What I would be interested in is what cool things people do in their rc scripts to make their shells work better. :-)

shash · Apprentice Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 220 Location: India

Bash, basically, but I've been trying to learn zsh, and I use python for most scripts.

teknomage1 · Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:33 am Post subject:

I use bash but I have been advised to switch to csh and get good at it for employment prospects. ILM apparently does all their pipeline work with csh and python. Same with Rythm and Hues cept they use perl not python and Houdini's hscript is just csh with a few custom additions for accessing houdini nodes. Crazy eh? Oh well off to hit the csh scripting books...thanks to that article about the dangers of csh there don't seem to be any howto's about csh scripting...bah.

EDIT: ack can't believe i used the wrong form of there

viperlin · Veteran Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1319 Location: UK

i've tried a few others, i'm sticking with bash

Smoothhound · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 149

I switched from being a long time bash user to zsh about a year ago and have never looked back.

It's completion abilities rock and it's history functionality is also very powerful. The setup files can be a bit arcane though.

nerdbert · l33t Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 981 Location: Berlin

To · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject:

I've allways been a bash fan :wink:

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XiuX · n00b Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 59 Location: Linux

Python/Perl/Some Other Scripting Language ;D
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denstark · l33t Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 654 Location: sd.ca.us

Bash, no real reason to use anything else
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steel300 · Veteran Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1155

I use bash but like tcsh when dealing with cvs.
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ewan.paton · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:

myuser · Apprentice Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 218

BASH wins hands down for me.

The main reason is cross linux compatiblity.

CSH is not that portable, neither is TC or Z.

For editing and shortcuts BASH ranks with TCSH and ZSH, with CSH lacking a few features.

Raniz · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject:

zsh for the wonderful completion.

polin8 · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:26 pm Post subject:

G-Style · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:26 pm Post subject:

I use bash.

nrl · Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 446 Location: Glasgow, UK

Hmm, is it too late to point out this thread is a dupe of
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=45143