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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

staze wrote:
This would seem to indicate that the TTL for rsync.gentoo.org is only 300 seconds, or 5 minutes. I can't imagine they purposely set it that low. At least if someone did root their dns server, they were nice enough to set it nice and low so that when it's fixed it should be up again in 5 minutes max. Otherwise we'd have to wait for hours and hours.


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that'd be smart at least
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

true... either way, at least they were nice enough to keep the TTL nice and low. :-)

It could be 86400... then we'd have to wait a day. ;-) Or like comcast used to do, keep it at 604800 (7 days). So when they screw up your entry in the reverse DNS tables, it still takes a week to get propagate. Gar...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key is how many people are trying to access the rsync mirrors at the moment - if there is a lot of load, then it may be easier to remove the load, fix the issue, and then allow the connections again. DNS with a low TTL is faster than trying to go to each server, get it repaired, and bring it back up again. Of course, this is all guesswork on my part, but if so I can understand the logic .. of course I could also be completely wrong :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm, all we can do is wait.
wait for an announcement.
wait for the mirrors.
wait for the dns-servers.

we can put that on the list of things you have to wait for your whole life:
elevators, trains, traffic lights, colleagues, internet-connections etc etc

what was that, a total of 20 percent of your life that's spent waiting for something?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peregrine wrote:
if there is a lot of load, then it may be easier to remove the load, fix the issue, and then allow the connections again. DNS with a low TTL is faster than trying to go to each server, get it repaired, and bring it back up again.


it sounds reasonable, peregrine
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what this would also do would be keep the mirror rsync servers from trying to sync against the server they are fixing. They will sync against themselves, also resolving the load and creating weird errors if they're restoring from backup.

Once they have the master rsync server back up, they change the dns record back, and the mirrors can then resync.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The announcement of the issue is now up on the gentoo homepage - www.gentoo.org
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guess that answers that question... guess I'll wait until later today to do some system work.

Take it easy everyone... I'm going to get some shuteye.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Announcement has been made http://www.gentoo.org/
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We are currently experiencing some problems with the server that hosts the master portage tree for Gentoo Linux. We are working to reectify the problem as soon as possible, but anticipate at least a few more hours of downtime. In the mean time, please avoid syncing your portage tree via the emerge sync command. Our apologies for the troubles.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess they really are into trouble right now.
it's the core of the system that makes gentoo unique which is down.

hell, i imagine an ant population, admins running around looking for a solution. *g*
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I hope they just don't reectify the situation and not tell us what it was. I bet they will though. I hope its not another hack attempt. I can't listen to anymore Microsoft propaganda about how Linux is not secure. This would just add more fuel to the fire.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too. :( Sticking this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: I seem to have found some solution Reply with quote

gwion wrote:
sorry, did not work here. this is what i get:

Code:
*snip*


cheers,

gwion


You probably haven't unmasked the new Portage yet. If you *really* want to do this then add the following to your /etc/portage/package.unmask file (creating both the file and the directory if they don't already exist):

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>=sys-apps/portage-2.0.50_pre1
>=app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.0_pre1

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same problem as you guys but it just started working again
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems to have been a bug in portage too.

`emerge -uDp world` just downgraded

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[ebuild     UD] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.1.38 [0.2.0_pre4]
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r21 [2.0.50_pre14]

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theine wrote:
There seems to have been a bug in portage too.
`emerge -uDp world` just downgraded
Code:

[ebuild     UD] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.1.38 [0.2.0_pre4]
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r21 [2.0.50_pre14]


try using
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emerge -UDp  world
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no no, it worked, I just wanted to point out that there seems to be a problem with the newer versions of these packages. Thus they have been removed from the portage tree for now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess I picked a bad time to install gentoo on a new box =(
Is there any way to change my box to use a differnt rsync server?

I guess I can just download a snapshot

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/snapshots/portage-20040112.tar.bz2

jan 12 close enough for me
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This could simply be the result of Skynet beginning to take over...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Help!
#emerge sync
>>> starting rsync with rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
rsync: getaddrinfo: rsync.gentoo.org 873: name or servise not known
rsync error; error in socet IO (code 10) at clientserver.c (83)
....

What is it :?:
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an obeservation.
Everything seems to run smooth when removing /usr/portage/metadata/timestamp.chk file before each sync
At least on the swedish mirror
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i get this error..

Code:
receiving file list ...
1 file to consider
timestamp.chk
          32 100%    0.00kB/s    0:00:00

Number of files: 1
Number of files transferred: 1
Total file size: 32 bytes
Total transferred file size: 32 bytes
Literal data: 32 bytes
Matched data: 0 bytes
File list size: 32
Total bytes written: 201
Total bytes read: 899

wrote 201 bytes  read 899 bytes  2200.00 bytes/sec
total size is 32  speedup is 0.03
>>> skipping because this server timestamp is older than local timestamp ...

>>> retry ...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure, but i think this is on the server side b/c the online package database doesn't work either...when i try to search for a package, nothing comes up.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsync just started working for me again:)


rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've the same problem and I'm still unable to rsync :(
And here's another "funny" thing: on the machine where I try to do
Code:
emerge rsync

is running a vncserver, if i try to kill it I see:
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vncserver -kill :1
 
Can't find file /home/micron/.vnc/rsync.gentoo.org:1.pid
You'll have to kill the Xvnc process manually

What on the hell is
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.vnc/rsync.gentoo.org:1.pid

:?:
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