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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2002 9:34 pm    Post subject: what will be missing on the ibook? Reply with quote

I'm seriously considering getting a new ibook and dual booting between gentoo and OS X. So far I've been an x86 person.

My main concern right now is what kind of binary-only stuff will I be missing out on? I know i won't be able to play games through wine-x or use the codeweaver plugin.

acroread looks like it will be out. What about the flash plugin for mozilla? the realplayer plugin? anything else?

thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 5:47 pm    Post subject: hmmm Reply with quote

I'm not too terribly sure what's missing, but last I checked, mol (mac on linux) was available on the portage tree...mol lets you run mac apps in linux almost as if they were native. I've heard a lot of good things about it, but as I'm still on the x86 side of things, I can't speak from personal experience. I hope that helps shed some light on the direction you might end up going.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my experience with my iMac I would say that the only thing that could cause you trouble is sound input & output. Keymaps can be a bit difficult, but it can be fixed and everything else (printers, iBook sleep & powersave, etc) works great!

If you plan on dualbooting a big problem right now is that HFS+ has very bad support in Linux...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ernstp wrote:
If you plan on dualbooting a big problem right now is that HFS+ has very bad support in Linux...


I will definitely be dual booting with OS X and gentoo.

Have you tried http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-hfsplus/? I was kind of planning on using that, at least to mount readonly my hfs+ partitions. Most of the time I'll be on a network where I can rsync to another machine in between reboots, but hopefully I'll be able to mount the hfs+ partitions read only.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure about the read only drive but the read/write driver is extremely slow. I have a regular HFS partition for sharing files between Linux and OSX.

I run Gentoo on an iBook Dual USB with the only thing missing is the modem and monitor/TV out.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool! that's great to hear. did you get DRI in X going too?

PimpNasty wrote:
I am not sure about the read only drive but the read/write driver is extremely slow. I have a regular HFS partition for sharing files between Linux and OSX.

I run Gentoo on an iBook Dual USB with the only thing missing is the modem and monitor/TV out.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know (DRI is loaded in XF86Config-4 with mode 0666), how would I go about testing.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first off, the 3d screensavers in xscreensaver will be fast. (check sballs and sproingies, it should be obvious).

also check in /var/log/XFree86.0.log. try this:

Code:
grep -iE 'dri|drm' /var/log/XFree86.0.log


towards the end hopefully you will get output similar to this (but it will say radeon rather than r128):

Code:

(II) R128(0): [drm] created "r128" driver at busid "PCI:1:0:0"
(II) R128(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xfa913000
(II) R128(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xfa913000 to 0x40017000
(II) R128(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xe0000000
(II) R128(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) R128(0): [drm] register handle = 0xdf000000
(II) R128(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized
(II) R128(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler
(II) R128(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) R128(0): [drm] Added 128 16384 byte vertex/indirect buffers
(II) R128(0): [drm] Mapped 128 vertex/indirect buffers

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think DRI is working. grepping XFree86.0.log returns
Code:
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] loaded kernel module for "radeon" driver
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] created "radeon" driver at busid "PCI:0:16:0"
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xd202b000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xd202b000 to 0x30018000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0x98000000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(EE) RADEON(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
DRIUnlock called when not locked
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xd202b000 at 0x30018000


Sballs also is really choppy (2-3fps)

I am running the 2.4.19-r6 ppc-sources kernel.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:56 pm    Post subject: dri Reply with quote

sounds like DRI is not working.

in your kernel config:
under character devices, I think you need agpgart turned on. there should be a radeon kernel module that came with X for X 4.2 drm support. Also in your kernel under 'Console Drivers/Frame Buffer Support' you need 'ATI Radeon display support' turned on.

then in your device section in your XF86Config file, you need to have
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Option "UseFBdev"


that's what others on the forum have said.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just my 2 cents, but i have a ibook with gentoo on it. i'm quite happy with that. but
- the DRI is not working with the radeon mobility LY M6 16 MB, that is a kernel related problem (the card is not supported by the framebuffer driver as of today)
- i have random crashes (real hard crash, with what seems to be the openfirmware prompt taking the hand even on a X screen, and then when it exit i get a the linux kernel panic message) sometimes after waking up
- sound is working (OSS) king of strangely, sometimes volume is very low or very high or balance goes all to the right or to the left, but if i plug in and out the earing it goes back to normal operation and i can use a mixer to control the volume/balance
- battery last less than what i was expecting (3-3h30 max)
- this is my first laptop so i do not know how do the X86 ones but having the CD-rom and the harddrive on the same controller can lead to saturation of the controller when reading from the CD and writing and doing something else...

but overall i'm really happy with the system
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