GCC 3.2 is here: Now is the time to rebuild everything. How?

dtun3Z · n00b Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 63

when running the upgrade script nr. 3 i get a build problem.
emerge bails out on glibc with some error 139.
After searching on google, it may be a binutils problem...
but i dont know :/
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nico-- · n00b Joined: 29 Jul 2002 Posts: 59

I ran the 4 scripts and they seemed to work successfuly but im guessing i still need to do something else since none of the c++ apps work.

emerge -e world?

If so, is there a way for the packages to be downloaded and built somewhere other than the default directories (im pretty sure i'll be running out of space on my / partition).
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Utoxin · Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 2:59 pm Post subject:

*currently in hour 12 of an emerge -e world*

The 4 update scripts worked great. But god does emerge -e world take forever. And it hasn't even reached Mozilla yet. That takes 2 hours by itself. (At least.)
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dtun3Z · n00b Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 63

aha!!
It`s not glibc that is bailing out, it is python!
Make gives mi error # 139!
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rac · Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: aha!

dtun3Z · n00b Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 63

i have seen it, but i dont think that is the problem. i can emerge everything else it seems... :/
but will try to go to the bios and use the safemode thing there ;-)

see if that helps..

i have tried not using --fomit-frame-pointer, but it`s not that.
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Kruuse · n00b Joined: 29 Aug 2002 Posts: 15 Location: Denmark

I ran the 4 scripts and rebooted. I checked the log as per the instructions and noticed that kde had failed to recompile. I emerged kde and a few apps (Kbiff, Kportage, Mosfet-Liquid etc.) and a handful of hours later everything was fine. Except X which wouldn't start due to an Nvidia kernel error with the new drivers. I recompiled the Linux kernel and now I'm back in business.

Good scripts and instructions (if you read them)

/Jens

uglyman · Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 9:33 am Post subject: wish me luck!

well guys,
here goes nothing....

got the first of the four scripts running right now.

My plan is to go conservative on the CFLAGS until I get it all working....(if)
then I think I might try to go a little more aggressive and re-merge most of my system. I think this would be the easiest way for me since I have very little knowledge of this stuff. At least then I won't mistake problems I have with my new GCC for problems with dangerous CFLAGS. Seems like if I have problems, I will be more able to track it down, if I am only changing one thing at a time.

I just want to know if this approach makes sense, or is it a stupidly extra time consuming way of doing the same thing? I have no problem with compile time since this is all just on my home computer that sits around waiting for me to get home from work and play BZflag for a while. the rest of the time I just mess with it to try and learn something. (in other words, it isn't exactly mission critical).

later,
uglyman

Kruuse · n00b Joined: 29 Aug 2002 Posts: 15 Location: Denmark

kachaffeous · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 07 Jun 2002 Posts: 86

I have a Gentoo version 1.2 system. I haven't really done much with it since it was built. Although my emerge doesn't work anymore. I am assuming that it is because of the new gcc. What is needed to bring version 1.2 into line? I tried running theses scripts:
http://www.gentoo.org/~carpaski/system_update/

The scripts fail out. I also tried re-making the /etc/make.profile link. I can not emerge anything.

Should I just rebuild from scratch using the 1.4_rc1 cd? I'm at work atm so don't know the exact error message, although it deals with gcc.

Thanks for any info (or flames)

uglyman · Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:07 pm Post subject: no, no flames here

well, AFAIK there is no reason why a new version of gcc being released should break emerge. I have been happily using the old version of gcc for quite a while and my emerge has been fine. I think it could be possible that at some point if you were doing some sort of massive emerge update it may have emerged a new gcc when you weren't expecting it, then you would have problems....maybe. but it should still be using the old one anyway because your /etc/make.profile link probably never got accidently moved. unless maybe you accidently unmerged the old gcc, or something.

as I said, I think this is possible, but I don't think it is very likely. if emerge broke it is probably something else IMO.

My suggestion would be to post this question in another thread and give us the error messages to work with... maybe someone can turn something up. also let us know what you have tried (if anything) to get emerge working again. updating your portage tree and emerging portage could help out............ but with no emerge this could be ugly. (like me)

later,
uglyman

P.S. thanks to kruuse for posting those cflags... I will think about it for a little while and I may use those (addapted for my PIII of course). I was planning to avoid things like -fomit-frame-pointer for a while (as I was describing in my other post) because there seems to be some controversy in this thread as to whether or not it works, and whether or not it is good.

well maybe I will try it once your way. and if I have any problems I may just drop ALL of the fancy stuff.

athlonkmf · n00b Joined: 02 Jun 2002 Posts: 37

I've tried the script on my freshly installed 1.2 system (how should I know that 1.4 is out within 2 weeks?)

It passed the 2nd script, but at the 3rd script, emerge fails at emerging textinfo

No problem I guessed. just work with 1.2 for now... but then found out that KDE doesn't work anymore. Rar doesn't work anymore.. ah just nothing work...

So what can I do about it?

uglyman · Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 6:42 am Post subject: damn

well I am writing this from my fresh mandrake install. sorry for any typos but I can hardly read this crappy font they gave me. no offense to mandrake fans but YUCK!

anyway this is what happened.

a few days ago I was trying to update all my packages and I found that some wouldn't install because they used cp -p in the make file. I posted a message about it. rac posted a reply with a link to a bugzilla report that offered a patch to the kernel sources to fix the problem. anyway, I had already gotten temporarily around the problem, and planned on patching the kernel later. Then I tried running the 4 upgrade scripts but I forgot to patch the kernel first. So it failed an emerge very early on ( I think it was db or something like that) and then things slowly got worse. A more skilled person may have saved it, but I tried to patch the kernel which caused problems I guess because the gcc upgrade wasnt' complete enough or something. well, anyway... soon my attempt at fixing the problem eventually ended up with me trying to emerge portage which managed to unmerge the old portage, but not emerge a new one. so I tried the rescue tarball, but things really got bad. finally grub could no longer boot any of the kernels in my /boot dir. some sort of error while freeing kernel memory.

the link to my post about the XFS cp -p problem follows see rac's reply for the bugzilla link:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=14701

IF YOU USE XFS FOR YOUR FILESYSTEM PLEASE PATCH YOUR KERNEL ACCORDING TO THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE BUGZILLA REPORT TALKED ABOUT AT THE ABOVE LINK. DO THIS BEFORE YOU TRY THE UPGRADE SCRIPTS OR YOU WILL BE SORRY!!!!!!

I hope I saved somebody the trouble I just had.

oh well I was thinking about starting over anyway. I didn't have any important files really, and they should be safely stored on my /usr partition anyway. once I get my new gentoo going I can mount it and go. I just hope I can still dig out my /etc. All of my packages were freshly upgraded so the files should still all fit.

later,
uglyman

rac · Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 7:02 am Post subject:

Very sorry to hear your system went up in flames, uglyman.

One other thing people with the XFS / ACL problem can try is:

hakan

Do I have to install Gentoo 1.4 or can I upgrade my 1.3b system to Gentoo 1.4 with bootstrapping and recompiling everthing?

There are so many scripts out there, so I am a little bit confused now. A little list about the scripts which worked should be nice.
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uglyman · Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:29 am Post subject:

rac,
I had the use flag set I think, but I don't remember the fileutils package... I think I may have had that too. I am not really sure now, and I have no good way to check. Any way, thanks for the tip, I actually plan to keep using XFS. I have been pretty happy with it. So I will MAKE SURE I have fileutils next time. also I will make sure I have the kernel patched to fix at least the bugs I know about :roll:

I feel rather stupid since it was so recent that you told me about the bug in the other thread. :oops:

Oh well, at least it is no data lost (so far)

I am also very glad I didn't just start over and try to reinstall the new version from scratch. I really did learn a lot. I had never bothered trying to keep my packages up to date, but I updated the whole system right before the attempted upgrade. I learned a lot from this process, and then I learned a lot about the whole structure of the system (as it crumbled down around me) :wink:

I never really new what bootstrapping was, and now I have a basic understanding. and I never new how greatful I would be that my /home dir is on a seperate partition. :lol:

later,
uglyman

ps. still sorry about any typos. I haven't had time to fix the stupid mandrake unreadable font problem.

Kruuse · n00b Joined: 29 Aug 2002 Posts: 15 Location: Denmark

hampton275 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 104

I have been reading through the posts and one thing eludes me?
Will there be a easy/fairily failsafe way to upgrade without jumping through hoops? Don't get me wrong I love the OS and will continue to use it, but there are a lot of newbie users that will be scared of by the install/upgrade (which has me a little confused, but thats normal)? I mean I know to be a viable alternative to some of the other distros it can be quite an undertaking.
I really like Gentoo, but going home to upgrade and not knowing with any certainty that my system may blow up in the process. Just my 2 cents.

rasmus · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 78

Just upgraded my server to gcc-3.2 using Carpaskis scripts. My laptop already runs Gentoo-1.4, installed from scratch with GCC3.2.

But what is Carpaskis script number 4 actually supposed to do? I thought it would rebuild everything that it could rebuild, but it gave me a list of some ten packages it would recompile and then recompiled them. On the other hand, emerge -p -e world gives me a list of hundreds of packages.

Is the script seriously buggy or have I misunderstood what it's supposed to do?

Time to take a look at rmerge?

hakan · Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 6:06 pm Post subject:

at hampton275

for example a "how to upgrade" would be very nice. i've read about so many problems, that i am not sure what to do exactly....
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hampton275 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 104

I am not trying to be critical. All I am saying is when a user posts "How to upgrade from 1.2 -> 1.4", he is told to come to this thread. There are 7 pages of different peoples opinions on how to accomplish this. Most which are different.
When an upgrade comes out, there should be a how-to or document on how to upgrade/install that version posted on the Gentoo Installation page or a similar page. People that are just getting into Linux/Gentoo would have a much easier time if it was laid down somewhere.
Then again, maybe it is and I just can't find it(Which has been known to happen from time to time).
I just saw an improvement that could be made and thought it should be mentioned.
Thanks

iplayfast · Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 8:28 pm Post subject:

The install docs for gentoo have been updated for 1.4, What I did was save my etc and home into the boot partition. and install from scratch. I'm hoping that when I get home I've got a nice new Gentoo waiting for me.

Word Mofo · n00b Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Posts: 17

McVeigh · Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2002 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Carpaski scripts

mueller · n00b Joined: 05 Jul 2002 Posts: 6