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alecStewart1
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:16 pm    Post subject: Yet Another "Dummy Output" issue with pipewire Reply with quote

Hey gang,

Yup, yet another user issue with only getting "Dummy output" when using pipewire + pulse

Here's a bunch of info:

emerge --info

equery u pipewire
Code:

[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[        : I - package is installed with flag     ]
[ Colors : set, unset                             ]
 * Found these USE flags for media-video/pipewire-9999:
 U I
 + + X             : Enable audible bell for X11
 + + abi_x86_32    : 32-bit (x86) libraries
 + + bluetooth     : Enable Bluetooth Support
 + + dbus          : Enable dbus support for anything that needs it (gpsd, gnomemeeting, etc)
 - - doc           : Add extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc). It is recommended to enable per package instead of globally
 - - echo-cancel   : Enable WebRTC-based echo canceller via media-libs/webrtc-audio-processing
 + + extra         : Build pw-cat/pw-play/pw-record
 + + ffmpeg        : Enable ffmpeg/libav-based audio/video codec support
 - - flatpak       : Enable Flatpak support
 - - gsettings     : Use gsettings (dev-libs/glib) to read/save used modules (useful for e.g. media-sound/paprefs
 + + gstreamer     : Add support for media-libs/gstreamer (Streaming media)
 - - ieee1394      : Enable FireWire/iLink IEEE1394 support (dv, camera, ...)
 - - jack-client   : Install a plugin for running PipeWire as a JACK client
 - - jack-sdk      : Use PipeWire as JACK replacement
 - - liblc3        : Allow loading LC3 plugins via media-sound/liblc3
 - - lv2           : Allow loading LV2 plugins via media-libs/lv2
 + + man           : Build and install man pages
 - - modemmanager  : Combined with USE=bluetooth, allows PipeWire to perform telephony on mobile devices.
 - - pipewire-alsa : Replace PulseAudio's ALSA plugin with PipeWire's plugin
 + + readline      : Enable support for libreadline, a GNU line-editing library that almost everyone wants
 - - roc           : Enable roc support for real-time audio streaming over the network, using media-libs/roc-toolkit. See https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/Network#roc
 + + sound-server  : Provide sound server using ALSA and bluetooth devices
 + + ssl           : Enable raop-sink support (needs dev-libs/openssl)
 - - systemd       : Enable use of systemd-specific libraries and features like socket activation or session tracking
 - - test          : Enable dependencies and/or preparations necessary to run tests (usually controlled by FEATURES=test but can be toggled independently)
 + + v4l           : Enable support for video4linux (using linux-headers or userspace libv4l libraries)
 - - zeroconf      : Support for DNS Service Discovery (DNS-SD)


equery u wireplumber
Code:

[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[        : I - package is installed with flag     ]
[ Colors : set, unset                             ]
 * Found these USE flags for media-video/wireplumber-9999:
 U I
 + + elogind                  : Enable session tracking via sys-auth/elogind
 - - lua_single_target_lua5-3 : Build for Lua 5.3 only
 + + lua_single_target_lua5-4 : Build for Lua 5.4 only
 - - systemd                  : Enable use of systemd-specific libraries and features like socket activation or session tracking
 - - test                     : Enable dependencies and/or preparations necessary to run tests (usually controlled by FEATURES=test but can be toggled independently)


echo $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
Code:

/home/alec/.runtime


echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
Code:

unix:path=/tmp/dbus-JC1qeABbaD,guid=a6cd69048728b7647a2802d5662e464f


lspci | grep ^audio
Code:

00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S HD Audio Controller (rev 11)
03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio Controller


sudo lsmod | rg snd_hda_intel
Code:

snd_hda_intel          65536  0
snd_intel_dspcfg       40960  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_sof,snd_sof_intel_hda_common
snd_hda_codec         233472  4 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_soc_hdac_hda,snd_sof_intel_hda
snd_hda_core          155648  7 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_ext_core,snd_hda_codec,snd_sof_intel_hda_common​,snd_soc_hdac_hda,snd_sof_intel_hda
snd_pcm               217088  12 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec,soundwire_intel,snd_sof​,snd_sof_intel_hda_common,snd_compress,snd_soc_core,snd_sof_utils,snd_hda_core,snd_pcm_dmaengine
snd                   163840  13 snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib​,snd_hda_codec,snd_sof,snd_timer,snd_compress,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi


aplay --list-devices
Code:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 10: HDMI 4 [VG27WQ]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 11: HDMI 5 [HDMI 5]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [USB Audio], device 1: USB Audio [USB Audio #1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [USB Audio], device 2: USB Audio [USB Audio #2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [USB Audio], device 3: USB Audio [USB Audio #3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


arecord -L
Code:

null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
sysdefault
    Default Audio Device
lavrate
    Rate Converter Plugin Using Libav/FFmpeg Library
pulse
    PulseAudio Sound Server
upmix
    Plugin for channel upmix (4,6,8)
vdownmix
    Plugin for channel downmix (stereo) with a simple spacialization
usbstream:CARD=HDMI
    HDA ATI HDMI
    USB Stream Output
usbstream:CARD=PCH
    HDA Intel PCH
    USB Stream Output
sysdefault:CARD=Audio
    USB Audio, USB Audio #1
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    Front output / input
usbstream:CARD=Audio
    USB Audio
    USB Stream Output


pactl list sinks
Code:

Sink #34
        State: SUSPENDED
        Name: auto_null
        Description: Dummy Output
        Driver: PipeWire
        Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz
        Channel Map: front-left,front-right
        Owner Module: 4294967295
        Mute: no
        Volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,   front-right: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
                balance 0.00
        Base Volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
        Monitor Source: auto_null.monitor
        Latency: 0 usec, configured 0 usec
        Flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY
        Properties:
                node.name = "auto_null"
                device.description = "Dummy Output"
                audio.rate = "48000"
                audio.channels = "2"
                audio.position = "FL,FR"
                media.class = "Audio/Sink"
                factory.name = "support.null-audio-sink"
                node.virtual = "true"
                monitor.channel-volumes = "true"
                factory.id = "19"
                clock.quantum-limit = "8192"
                client.id = "33"
                node.driver = "true"
                library.name = "audioconvert/libspa-audioconvert"
                object.id = "32"
                object.serial = "34"
        Formats:
                pcm


wpctl status
Code:

PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [1.1.0, alec@gentoo, cookie:2846063336]
 └─ Clients:
        33. pipewire                            [1.1.0, alec@gentoo, pid:6400]
        34. xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin             [1.1.0, alec@gentoo, pid:6361]
        35. WirePlumber                         [1.1.0, alec@gentoo, pid:6378]
        47. WirePlumber [export]                [1.1.0, alec@gentoo, pid:6378]
        48. wpctl                               [1.1.0, alec@gentoo, pid:10056]

Audio
 ├─ Devices:
 │
 ├─ Sinks:
 │  *   32. Dummy Output                        [vol: 1.00]
 │
 ├─ Sources:
 │
 ├─ Filters:
 │
 └─ Streams:

Video
 ├─ Devices:
 │
 ├─ Sinks:
 │
 ├─ Sources:
 │
 ├─ Filters:
 │
 └─ Streams:

Settings
 └─ Default Configured Devices:
         0. Audio/Sink    alsa_output.pci-0000_03_00.1.hdmi-stereo-extra4
         1. Audio/Source  alsa_output.usb-Generic_USB_Audio-00.HiFi_7_1__hw_Audio_3__sink


pw-cli ls Node
Code:

        id 29, type PipeWire:Interface:Node/3
                object.serial = "29"
                factory.id = "11"
                priority.driver = "20000"
                node.name = "Dummy-Driver"
        id 30, type PipeWire:Interface:Node/3
                object.serial = "30"
                factory.id = "11"
                priority.driver = "19000"
                node.name = "Freewheel-Driver"
        id 32, type PipeWire:Interface:Node/3
                object.serial = "34"
                factory.id = "19"
                client.id = "33"
                node.description = "Dummy Output"
                node.name = "auto_null"
                media.class = "Audio/Sink"


What is in ~/.asoundrc
Code:

# pcm.!default {
#     type hw
#     card Audio
# }

# ctl.!default {
#     type hw
#     card Audio
# }

defaults.pcm.card 2
defaults.pcm.device 1
defaults.ctl.card 2
defaults.pcm.dmix.rate 48000


cat /proc/asound/devices
Code:

  2: [ 1]   : control
  3: [ 0- 3]: digital audio playback
  4: [ 0- 7]: digital audio playback
  5: [ 0- 8]: digital audio playback
  6: [ 0- 9]: digital audio playback
  7: [ 0-10]: digital audio playback
  8: [ 0-11]: digital audio playback
  9: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent
 10: [ 0]   : control
 11: [ 2- 0]: digital audio playback
 12: [ 2- 0]: digital audio capture
 13: [ 2- 1]: digital audio playback
 14: [ 2- 1]: digital audio capture
 15: [ 2- 2]: digital audio playback
 16: [ 2- 2]: digital audio capture
 17: [ 2- 3]: digital audio playback
 18: [ 2]   : control
 33:        : timer


My user is in the audio, video and pipewire groups.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try enabling the pipewire-alsa USE flag.

Also, it may be pipewire/pulseaudio conflicting not sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, I'm new user here. I'm also running into this issue.
I tried enabling pipewire-alsa USE flag but it didn't work.
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alecStewart1
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

telestraw wrote:
Try enabling the pipewire-alsa USE flag.

Also, it may be pipewire/pulseaudio conflicting not sure.


I don't believe I have anything with pulseaudio running. The following you'll see that all the pulse related things are commented out in my /usr/share/pipewire/ directory:
Code:

# rg 'pulse' /usr/share/pipewire/*
/usr/share/pipewire/pipewire.conf
337:    # You can optionally start the pulseaudio-server here as well
342:    #{ path = "/usr/bin/pipewire" args = [ "-c" "pipewire-pulse.conf" ]
343:    #  condition = [ { exec.pipewire-pulse = null } { exec.pipewire-pulse = true } ] }

/usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-avb.conf
1:# PulseAudio config file for PipeWire version "1.1.0" #
7:# /etc/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/ for system-wide changes or in
8:# ~/.config/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/ for local changes.

/usr/share/pipewire/minimal.conf
48:    # Load the pulseaudio emulation daemon
49:    minimal.use-pulse = true
153:    { name = libpipewire-module-protocol-pulse
154:      condition = [ { minimal.use-pulse = true } ]
158:pulse.properties = {
435:    # You can optionally start the pulseaudio-server here as well
440:    ##{ path = "/usr/bin/pipewire" args = "-c pipewire-pulse.conf" }

/usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf
1:# PulseAudio config file for PipeWire version "1.1.0" #
7:# /etc/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/ for system-wide changes or in
8:# ~/.config/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/ for local changes.
43:    { name = libpipewire-module-protocol-pulse
45:         # contents of pulse.properties can also be placed here
52:# a script or in pulse.cmd below
63:pulse.cmd = [
88:pulse.properties = {
103:    #server.dbus-name       = "org.pulseaudio.Server"
104:    #pulse.min.req          = 128/48000     # 2.7ms
105:    #pulse.default.req      = 960/48000     # 20 milliseconds
106:    #pulse.min.frag         = 128/48000     # 2.7ms
107:    #pulse.default.frag     = 96000/48000   # 2 seconds
108:    #pulse.default.tlength  = 96000/48000   # 2 seconds
109:    #pulse.min.quantum      = 128/48000     # 2.7ms
110:    #pulse.idle.timeout     = 0             # don't pause after underruns
111:    #pulse.default.format   = F32
112:    #pulse.default.position = [ FL FR ]
115:pulse.properties.rules = [
120:                pulse.min.quantum = 1024/48000      # 22ms
127:pulse.rules = [
169:                pulse.min.req          = 512/48000      # 10.6ms
170:                pulse.min.quantum      = 512/48000      # 10.6ms
171:                pulse.idle.timeout     = 5              # pause after 5 seconds of underrun


So I'm not 100% sure. I'll look around for some more stuff here in a bit.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, so, the HDMI sound output is a card 0 device 10, or hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=4

aplay --list-devices:

Code:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 10: HDMI 4 [VG27WQ] # <-- this one
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 11: HDMI 5 [HDMI 5]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [USB Audio], device 1: USB Audio [USB Audio #1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [USB Audio], device 2: USB Audio [USB Audio #2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [USB Audio], device 3: USB Audio [USB Audio #3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


aplay -L

Code:

null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default
    Default ALSA Output (currently PipeWire Media Server)
lavrate
    Rate Converter Plugin Using Libav/FFmpeg Library
oss
    Open Sound System
pipewire
    PipeWire Sound Server
upmix
    Plugin for channel upmix (4,6,8)
vdownmix
    Plugin for channel downmix (stereo) with a simple spacialization
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=0
    HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 0
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=1
    HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 1
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=2
    HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 2
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=3
    HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 3
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=4 # <-- this one
    HDA ATI HDMI, VG27WQ
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=5
    HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 5
    HDMI Audio Output
usbstream:CARD=HDMI
    HDA ATI HDMI
    USB Stream Output
usbstream:CARD=PCH
    HDA Intel PCH
    USB Stream Output
sysdefault:CARD=Audio
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    Front output / input
surround21:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=Audio,DEV=0
    USB Audio, USB Audio
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
iec958:CARD=Audio,DEV=1
    USB Audio, USB Audio #1
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
usbstream:CARD=Audio
    USB Audio
    USB Stream Output


The problem is getting my system to output sound there.

Running speaker-test -t wav -c2 -Dplughw:0,10 and speaker-test -t wav -Dhdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=4 is how I figured it out.

Thing is, I have 0 clue how the hell I'm supposed to tell pipewire to output to hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=4 or plughw:0,10. That's all I want to do, and I really don't feel like having to delve into Pipewire's god awful JSON-esque DSL where I have to create a new node or whatever.

This is in my ~/.asoundrc

Code:

# pcm.!default {
#     type hw
#     card Audio
# }

# ctl.!default {
#     type hw
#     card Audio
# }

defaults.pcm.card 0
# defaults.pcm.device 10
defaults.ctl.card 0
defaults.pcm.dmix.rate 48000


I really have no idea what to do now.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2024 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alecStewart1 wrote:

This is in my ~/.asoundrc

Code:

# pcm.!default {
#     type hw
#     card Audio
# }

# ctl.!default {
#     type hw
#     card Audio
# }

defaults.pcm.card 0
# defaults.pcm.device 10
defaults.ctl.card 0
defaults.pcm.dmix.rate 48000



Move away your ~/.asoundrc and also /etc/asound.conf if that exists, then restart pipewire/wireplumber and see if that helps.
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