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stefan11111
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 Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:23 am Post subject: Changes to the handbook? |
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I just started to install gentoo on an old laptop after telling myself many times I will do it "some day".
Looking through the handbook(point and laugh, I don't care), I noticed this:
| Code: | | For instance, to have the EFI system partition partition (/dev/sda1) as FAT32 and the root partition (/dev/sda3) as xfs as used in the example partition structure, the following commands would be used: |
I don't remember gentoo defaulting to xfs. Is this something new?
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pietinger
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Changes to the handbook? |
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| stefan11111 wrote: | | I don't remember gentoo defaulting to xfs. Is this something new? |
Yes. 
(You can see changes in the history of our wiki. TBH: I am still using good old EXT4 and will do in the future ... also because I am using fscrypt) |
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John R. Graham
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:39 am Post subject: |
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The way it reads, it still looks like a "serving suggestion" to me. The Filesystems section offers more choices (although XFS is recommended).
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Irets
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John,
Why is xfs recommended?
I mostly see it at work on Redhat systems with LVM.
If not for LVM, what other pros does xfs have over ext4? (although I think ext4 also supports LVM) |
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John R. Graham
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Any filesystem that supports resizing can be effectively used with LVM. Sorry, I don't have any deep insight into the XFS recommendation.
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Hu
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| If you have questions about why the Wiki recommends something, the best approach is probably to use the Wiki's history facility to find who added that recommendation, then contact that person. In some cases, a Talk page may have some discussion that was conducted before the decision to change the advice on the main page. |
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Goverp
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Changes to the handbook? |
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| pietinger wrote: | | stefan11111 wrote: | | I don't remember gentoo defaulting to xfs. Is this something new? |
Yes.
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Interestingly I read in phoronix XFS maintainer steps down
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sam_
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Changes to the handbook? |
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| Goverp wrote: | | pietinger wrote: | | stefan11111 wrote: | | I don't remember gentoo defaulting to xfs. Is this something new? |
Yes.
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Interestingly I read in phoronix XFS maintainer steps down |
They're still contributing, just not acting as chief maintainer anymore, because they burned out.
As for the change itself, you can do what Hu said, and you're free to use whatever FS you want.
But quoting the handbook itself:
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XFS notably supports reflinks and Copy on Write (CoW) which is particularly helpful on Gentoo systems because of the amount of compiles users complete. XFS is the recommended modern all-purpose all-platform filesystem.
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