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Elaman n00b
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:39 pm Post subject: Recommended mice |
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Hi, I would like to get your input about which mice do you recommend using for Gentoo, and games in particular.
I am thinking about the newer Razer mice, but I also am aware of the fact that there aren't necessarily drivers which can be used in Gentoo. So you might get stuck with certain DPI and sensitivity and no way to change it below a threshold. This has happened to me already when switching from Windows, and wouldn't like to happen again. |
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piep n00b
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Banana Veteran
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SiberianSniper Guru
Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 378 Location: Dayton, OH, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Another vote for the MX518. I currently go between a G400s and an MX510 and they're very comfortable and well built. All three use the same geometry. I have a G500 at work (same shape but different buttons) and don't like it nearly as much.
I don't know if it's changed much, but Razer has had a reputation for low quality. I personally had a Deathadder mouse that lasted less than a year before the wheel stopped working, and I've heard other people online with similar stories. That said, always take online complaints with a grain of salt. |
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Elaman n00b
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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I actually had that exact one! back in the day. Ended up going back to the smaller ones though: MX300 and MX310.
piep wrote: | Once done with the configuration via hardware, all left is getting yourself the right sensitivity/accel via DE and/or game. |
Hmmm. That is actually pretty cool, although one would think that software drivers can provide more functionality. Is Zowie the only brand that allows you to do this? |
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bammbamm808 Guru
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:21 am Post subject: |
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My Razer Deathadder Elite works great. The drivers don't allow you remap keys, only to change the rgb, but you can use xmodmap for that. Once you have the drivers installed and loaded, the sensitivity buttons change the dpi and give you a popup onscreen to tell you what setting you have just invoked. Highly recommended. I used Roccat mice for a few years and they had full-featured drivers that let you save profiles and remap. Not sure if they're still available, as Roccat was bought out by....I forget whom. _________________ MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk
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Ant P. Watchman
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Been using Microsoft mice as they're the only ambidextrous layout I know of with 5 buttons. Would prefer not to any more, their build quality's gone to hell. |
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Elaman n00b
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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bammbamm808 wrote: | My Razer Deathadder Elite works great. The drivers don't allow you remap keys, only to change the rgb, but you can use xmodmap for that. Once you have the drivers installed and loaded, the sensitivity buttons change the dpi and give you a popup onscreen to tell you what setting you have just invoked. Highly recommended. I used Roccat mice for a few years and they had full-featured drivers that let you save profiles and remap. Not sure if they're still available, as Roccat was bought out by....I forget whom. |
That's good. Honestly I don't even need to change the RGB (I don't even need the RGB) but it feels always better to know that you have a way to make the device work.
I assume that with drivers, you are referring to "openrazer" ...? |
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bammbamm808 Guru
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Elaman wrote: | bammbamm808 wrote: | My Razer Deathadder Elite works great. The drivers don't allow you remap keys, only to change the rgb, but you can use xmodmap for that. Once you have the drivers installed and loaded, the sensitivity buttons change the dpi and give you a popup onscreen to tell you what setting you have just invoked. Highly recommended. I used Roccat mice for a few years and they had full-featured drivers that let you save profiles and remap. Not sure if they're still available, as Roccat was bought out by....I forget whom. |
That's good. Honestly I don't even need to change the RGB (I don't even need the RGB) but it feels always better to know that you have a way to make the device work.
I assume that with drivers, you are referring to "openrazer" ...? |
Correct. There's an overlay for it and everything. _________________ MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk
Ryzen 3900x
32Gb Samsung B-die (16GB dual rank x2) DDR4 @ 3200MHz, cl14
Geforce RTX 2070S 8GB
Samsung m.2 NVME pcie-3.0
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hedmo Veteran
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Elaman
if you like RGB , go with Razer .here is the list of working hardware:
Device Support
Keyboards
Device USB VID:PID
Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2012 1532:010D
Razer BlackWidow Classic (Alternate) 1532:010E
Razer Anansi 1532:010F
Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2013 1532:011A
Razer BlackWidow Stealth 1532:011B
Razer DeathStalker Expert 1532:0202
Razer BlackWidow Chroma 1532:0203
Razer DeathStalker Chroma 1532:0204
Razer Blade Stealth 1532:0205
Razer BlackWidow Tournament Edition Chroma 1532:0209
Razer Blade QHD 1532:020F
Razer Blade Pro (Late 2016) 1532:0210
Razer BlackWidow Chroma (Overwatch) 1532:0211
Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2016 1532:0214
Razer BlackWidow X Chroma 1532:0216
Razer BlackWidow X Ultimate 1532:0217
Razer BlackWidow X Tournament Edition Chroma 1532:021A
Razer Ornata Chroma 1532:021E
Razer Ornata 1532:021F
Razer Blade Stealth (Late 2016) 1532:0220
Razer BlackWidow Chroma V2 1532:0221
Razer Blade (Late 2016) 1532:0224
Razer Blade Pro (2017) 1532:0225
Razer Huntsman Elite 1532:0226
Razer Huntsman 1532:0227
Razer BlackWidow Elite 1532:0228
Razer Cynosa Chroma 1532:022A
Razer Blade Stealth (Mid 2017) 1532:022D
Razer Blade Pro FullHD (2017) 1532:022F
Razer Blade Stealth (Late 2017) 1532:0232
Razer Blade 15 (2018) 1532:0233
Razer Blade Pro 17 (2019) 1532:0234
Razer BlackWidow Lite (2018) 1532:0235
Razer BlackWidow Essential 1532:0237
Razer Blade Stealth (2019) 1532:0239
Razer Blade 15 (2019) Advanced 1532:023A
Razer Blade 15 (2018) Base Model 1532:023B
Razer Cynosa Lite 1532:023F
Razer Blade 15 (2018) Mercury 1532:0240
Razer BlackWidow (2019) 1532:0241
Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition 1532:0243
Razer Blade 15 (Mid 2019) Mercury 1532:0245
Razer Blade 15 (Mid 2019) Base 1532:0246
Razer Blade Stealth (Late 2019) 1532:024A
Razer Blade Pro (Late 2019) 1532:024C
Razer Blade 15 Studio Edition (2019) 1532:024D
Mice
Device USB VID:PID
Razer Orochi 2011 1532:0013
Razer DeathAdder 3.5G 1532:0016
Razer Abyssus 1800 1532:0020
Razer Mamba 2012 (Wired) 1532:0024
Razer Mamba 2012 (Wireless) 1532:0025
Razer Naga 2012 1532:002E
Razer Imperator 2012 1532:002F
Razer Ouroboros 2012 1532:0032
Razer Taipan 1532:0034
Razer Naga Hex (Red) 1532:0036
Razer DeathAdder 2013 1532:0037
Razer DeathAdder 1800 1532:0038
Razer Orochi 2013 1532:0039
Razer Naga 2014 1532:0040
Razer Naga Hex 1532:0041
Razer Abyssus 2014 1532:0042
Razer DeathAdder Chroma 1532:0043
Razer Mamba (Wired) 1532:0044
Razer Mamba (Wireless) 1532:0045
Razer Mamba Tournament Edition 1532:0046
Razer Orochi (Wired) 1532:0048
Razer Diamondback Chroma 1532:004C
Razer Naga Hex V2 1532:0050
Razer Naga Chroma 1532:0053
Razer DeathAdder 3500 1532:0054
Razer Lancehead (Wired) 1532:0059
Razer Lancehead (Wireless) 1532:005A
Razer Abyssus V2 1532:005B
Razer DeathAdder Elite 1532:005C
Razer Abyssus 2000 1532:005E
Razer Lancehead Tournament Edition 1532:0060
Razer Basilisk 1532:0064
Razer Naga Trinity 1532:0067
Razer Abyssus Elite (D.Va Edition) 1532:006A
Razer Abyssus Essential 1532:006B
Razer Mamba Elite (Wired) 1532:006C
Razer DeathAdder Essential 1532:006E
Razer Lancehead Wireless (Receiver) 1532:006F
Razer Lancehead Wireless (Wired) 1532:0070
Razer DeathAdder Essential (White Edition) 1532:0071
Razer Mamba Wireless (Receiver) 1532:0072
Razer Mamba Wireless (Wired) 1532:0073
Razer Viper 1532:0078
Razer Viper Ultimate (Wired) 1532:007A
Razer Viper Ultimate (Wireless) 1532:007B
Razer DeathAdder V2 1532:0084
Mousemats
Device USB VID:PID
Razer Firefly Hyperflux 1532:0068
Razer Firefly 1532:0C00
Razer Goliathus 1532:0C01
Razer Goliathus Extended 1532:0C02
Headsets
Device USB VID:PID
Razer Kraken 7.1 1532:0501
Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma 1532:0504
Razer Kraken 7.1 1532:0506
Razer Kraken 7.1 V2 1532:0510
Razer Kraken Ultimate 1532:0527
Misc
Device USB VID:PID
Razer Nostromo 1532:0111
Razer Orbweaver 1532:0113
Razer Tartarus 1532:0201
Razer Orbweaver Chroma 1532:0207
Razer Tartarus Chroma 1532:0208
Razer Core 1532:0215
Razer Tartarus V2 1532:022B
Razer Nommo Chroma 1532:0517
Razer Nommo Pro 1532:0518
Razer Chroma Mug Holder 1532:0F07
Razer Base Station Chroma 1532:0F08
Razer Chroma Hardware Development Kit (HDK) 1532:0F09
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steve_v Guru
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 388 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Ant P. wrote: | Been using Microsoft mice as they're the only ambidextrous layout I know of with 5 buttons. Would prefer not to any more, their build quality's gone to hell. |
If you're looking for something ambidextrous with a similar shape and layout to the legendary Microsoft Intellimouse (I was, and it took me a while to find one), I highly recommend the SteelSeries Sensei 310. Build quality excellent, sensor fantastic, no gimmicky bollocks or strange shapes (besides the RGB, which can be turned off). Configuration utility (rivalcfg) in the jorgicio overlay. _________________ Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. Four times is Official GNOME Policy. |
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Elaman n00b
Joined: 28 Jul 2016 Posts: 32
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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hedmo wrote: | Elaman
if you like RGB , go with Razer .here is the list of working hardware:
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Gotta say I'm RGB agnostic, I gravitate towards something really small ("laptop" mouse like legendary Logitech mini mouse). I had a look at the OpenRazer repo and saw that they have a merge request for a Viper Mini. If that gets to work, I think it's a no brainer. Hell if I knew s*** about s*** I'd even try to do the changes myself. Sounds like fun tinkering. |
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hedmo Veteran
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Elaman wrote: | I had a look at the OpenRazer repo and saw that they have a merge request for a Viper Mini. If that gets to work, I think it's a no brainer. Hell if I knew s*** about s*** I'd even try to do the changes myself. Sounds like fun tinkering. |
Elaman
go for it .it was not so hard for me to get the hyperflux to work |
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happysmash27 Apprentice
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I can second the Zowie FK2. I have been using mine since around 2017, and it works great in whatever I plug it into, including its primary home of my Gentoo PC. |
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JustAnother Apprentice
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:33 am Post subject: |
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I found out a secret about computer mice.
KVM switches with imperfect innards may not get along well with cheap $3 discount store mice.
I've had a few second hand USB "quality" (i.e., brand name) mice, and a few cheapies. They work ok when directly plugged in to a computer's USB port. But when they plug in through a KVM switch, the cheapies have a distinct tendency to act up. Real bad. Crazy behavior type of real bad. But why?
Mice are, or should be, standard HID (Human Interface Device) USB nodes. They should all work the same, because there is but one official HID standard. But they don't. My guess is that the cheapies cut corners on the HID standard in some subtle way that clashes with KVM switches disproportionately. I can't find anything on the Internet that backs up this guess.
The upshot? Chinchillas are more fun than mice. |
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