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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:53 pm    Post subject: encoding Reply with quote

<-- KOI8-R -->

Во избежание путаницы в кодировках, предлогаю пользовать koi8-r как стандарт на этом форуме.

Есть кто против?

Форум пока еще сырой, надо порядок навести, etc.

Вообщем ждемс остальных модераторов.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

мЕР! ;) оСЯРЭ АСДЕР ЙЮЙЮЪ АШКЮ! оНЯР БШЬЕ Ъ ЛНЦС ОПНВХРЮРЭ РНКЭЙН ЕЯКХ ЯОЕЖХЮКЭМН БШАЕПС ЩРС ЙНДХПНБЙС ХГ ЯОХЯЙЮ! вЕЦН БШ ЛМЕ ОПЕДКЮЦЮЕРЕ ЙЮФДШИ ПЮГ РЮЙ ЙКХЙЮРЭ? :( ъ ХЛЕК РЮЙНИ НОШР Я НДМХЛ ТНПСЛНЛ Х ЩРН АШКН ЯНБЯЕЛ МЕ ОПХЪРМН.

ю, ЙЯРЮРХ, ВРН ГЮ ЙНДХПНБЙЮ ЯРНХР ЯЕИВЮЯ?

х ВЕЦН ДПСЦХЕ ЯЙЮФСР?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The same post only in koi8:

Нет! ;) Пусть будет какая была! Пост выше я могу прочитать только если специально выберу эту кодировку из списка! Чего вы мне предлагаете каждый раз так кликать? :( Я имел такой опыт с одним форумом и это было совсем не приятно.

А, кстати, что за кодировка стоит сейчас?

И чего другие скажут?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

translit:

SDK - net, nado vibrat' edinuu kodirovku.

to, chto ti shyas napisal - eto bilo v CP1251.
Moy post bil v KOI8-R.

otsuda bespredel i nachinaetsa...

u kogo-to CP1251 stoit kak default, u kogo-to eto koi8-r.

ya predlozhil KOI8-R, t.k., IMHO, eto standard dlya Cyrillic unix users. A CP1251 - eto M$.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

translit:

OK, moget ya sglupil. Esli koi8 budet correctno avtoopredelyatsya (browserom), to ya polnostyu ZA.

A budet li?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

С ЛЕМЪ БЯ╦ БХДМН
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

рЮЙ БНР БХДХРЕ, Я ЙНДХПНБЙНИ ЙНРНПЮЪ ЯЕИВЮЯ БЯЕЛ БЯЕ БХДМН. с ЛЕМЪ ЯРНХР ЮБРН Х БЯЕ НРКХВМН.

2gnuug: Ю С РЕАЪ РПЮАКШ АШКХ ХГМЮВЮКЭМН?
х ЙЯРЮРХ, ЛНФМН КХ Б phpBB ЦКНАЮКЭМН ХГЛЕМХРЭ ЙНДХПНБЙС?
хМРЕПЕЯМН, Ю ЙЮЙСЧ ХЯОНКЭГСЕР МЮЬ ТНПСЛ МЮ www.linuxshop.ru? лНФЕР РЮЛ ЯОПНЯХРЭ С Timothy? нМ-РН РЮЛ БЯЕ МЮЯРПНХК Х БЯЕ ПЮАНРЮЕР МНПЛЮКЭМН. дЮФЕ НРКХВМН :). х С БЯЕУ.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

п░ я┤я┌п╬, UTF-8 п╫п╣ п╨п╟я┌п╦я┌? п≈п╟я┤п╣п╪ я─п╟п╥п╡п╬п╢п╦я┌я▄ п╢п╬п╪п╬я─п╬я┴п╣п╫я▀п╧ п╠п╬я─п╢п╣п╩я▄ п╫п╟ п╪п╦я─п╬п╡я▀я┘ я│п╟п╧я┌п╟я┘?

п÷п╬п╨п╟,

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghuug wrote:
translit:

SDK - net, nado vibrat' edinuu kodirovku.

to, chto ti shyas napisal - eto bilo v CP1251.
Moy post bil v KOI8-R.

otsuda bespredel i nachinaetsa...

u kogo-to CP1251 stoit kak default, u kogo-to eto koi8-r.

ya predlozhil KOI8-R, t.k., IMHO, eto standard dlya Cyrillic unix users. A CP1251 - eto M$.

Net, nuzhno vybirat' ne edinuyu kodirovku? a normal'no nastroit' Apache i sey forum, 4toby user s any locals can read this forum. Blin!!! Inache za4em etot gemor.
====== koi8-r begin=====
??? ????? ??? ?????? ???????????, ?? ? ???? ?????? ?? ???????????? ?? ?????????. IMHO, ??????
====== end koi8-r ======
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Блин! У меня в юникоде не постятся сообщения. :((((
Тогда лучше koi8, я думаю.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ne, esli etu hrenoten' s kodirovkami ne reshit', to malo kto poidet na etot forum. i reshat' nado ne vyborom vse postim v odnoy kodirovke, a prosit' adminov sdelat' chtoby generilis' pravil'nye hedery.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:32 pm    Post subject: KOI8-R Reply with quote

кои8 текст?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

А почему не юникод ? Всё-таки стребовать с владельцев сайта пометку контента UTF-8 будет попроще, ибо им 7-битным это пофих.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U menya mozilla normalno ne detectit etot cp1251
Davayte ili koi8 ili utf8
Ustroyte golosovanie
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

п╒п╟п╨, п╬я┤п╟я─п╬п╡п╟я┌п╣п╩я▄п╫п╬! п╒п╟п╨п╬п╣ п╡п╟п╤п╫п╬п╣ я│п╬п╠я▀я┌п╦п╣, Russian Follow Up translator (я┌п╬ п╠п╦я┬я▄ я▐) я┐п╥п╫п╟я▒я┌ п╬п╠ я█я┌п╬п╪ п╦п╥ п╫п╬п╡п╬я│я┌п╣п╧ п╫п╟ LOR'e. :(

п╒п╣п©п╣я─я▄ п╫п╟ п©я─п╣п╢п╪п╣я┌ п╨п╬п╢п╦я─п╬п╡п╨п╦. п²п╣ п╢я┐я─п╦я┌п╣, UTF8 - я█я┌п╬ я│я┌п╟п╫п╢п╟я─я┌ п╫п╟ я█я┌п╬п╪ я│п╟п╧я┌п╣. п╦п╫п╟я┤п╣ п╡п╬п╬п╠я┴п╣ п╨п╟я┬п╟ п╠я┐п╢п╣я┌...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ъ ЙЯРЮРХ c sdk ОНКМНЯРЭЧ ЯНЦКЮЯЕМ =) БЯЕ БХДМН Х КЮМН - С ЛЕМЪ ТНПСЛ www.gentoo.ru МНПЛЮКЭМН ОНЙЮГШБЮЕР.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

п╫п╟п╢п╬ п╡я▀п©я─п╬я│п╦я┌я▄ s/iso-8859-1/utf-8/

я█я┌п╬ п╬п©я┌п╦п╪п╟п╩я▄п╫п╬, п©п╬я┌п╬п╪я┐ п╨п╟п╨ п©п╬п╩я┐я┤п╦я┌я▄ koi п╦п╩п╦ 1251 п╫п╣я─п╣п╟п╩я▄п╫п╬, п©п╬я│п╨п╬п╩я▄п╨я┐ я┌п╬пЁп╢п╟ п╡я│п╣ п╣п╡я─п╬п©п╣п╧я│п╨п╦п╣ я┤п╦я┌п╟я┌п╣п╩п╦ п╡п╪п╣я│п╬ я┐п╪п╩я▐я▌я┌п╬п╡ п©п╬п╩я┐я┤п╟я┌ п╨п╦я─п╦п╩п╩п╦я┤п╣я│п╨п╦п╣ п╨я─п╟п╨п╬п╥я▐п╠я─я▀.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

еЯРЭ ЮКЭРЕПМЮРХБМНЕ ОПЕДКНФЕМХЕ, davajte budem pisat' na translite ? ;]] ПЕЬЕМХЕ МЕ ЯСОЕП ЙНМЕВМН, МН ЕЯКХ ВЕЯРМНА РН Ъ ГЮ...Ъ ЫЕКЙЮРЭ ЙНДХПНБЙХ ;]
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tak ne poidet :)

esli isxodit iz togo, chto etot forum dlya linuxoidov, a bolshinstvo russkix linuxoidov seichas ispolzujet koi8r (imho), to ego i nado ispolzovat. v budushem nado perexodit' na utf8, no nashemu phpBB eto svetit ne skoro :)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

na samom dele eshjo ne v kazhdom offise linuksoidy sidjat na linukse ;]
no takoj bardak kak v etom subje tozhe ne katit ;]
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: encoding Reply with quote

ghuug wrote:
<-- KOI8-R -->

п⌠п╩я┐п©п╬ п╡ п╫п╟я┬п╣ п╡я─п╣п╪я▐ я▌п╥п╟я┌я▄ koi8-r. п▒я┐п╢я┐я┴п╣п╣ п╥п╟ п╦п╪п©п╩п╣п╪п╣п╫я┌п╟я├п╦я▐п╪п╦ Unicode (п╡ п╫п╟я│я┌п╬п╣я▐я┴п╣п╣ п╡я─п╣п╪я▐ п╫п╟п╦п╠п╬п╩п╣п╣ п©я─п╦п╣п╪п╩п╦п╪п╟ п╢п╩я▐ я▌п╥п╟п╫п╦я▐ UTF-8)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Пусть кои-8 будет !!!!Так привычнее и проще :? Все остальное -краказябры!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ДЮ Б МЮРСПЕ, ВЕ ЛНГЦХ РПЮУЮРЭ, ЯРЮБХРЭ KOI8-R Х МЕОЮПХРЯЪ
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Вот нашли проблему... Если выдавать правильные хедеры, то разницы никакой. Но хотелось бы utf-8 :)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

не. надо все-таки юникод. а то не одни мы тут, со своими кодировками.
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