Cannot emerge xorg suddenly...

The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:42 pm Post subject: Cannot emerge xorg suddenly...

I updated my laptop a day or two ago, as well as another I setup for a friend. I noticed we both suddenly got a boatload of Perl crap pulled in when we did "emerge -avuND @world". No clue why, but I had to accept it. Now I am installing Gentoo onto a new laptop and I cannot get xorg-server and the foomatic stuff to come in.

The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:47 pm Post subject:

OK, I thought that maybe Perl was just updated, so i thought I'd clean out my system. Using "emerge -aD --depclean" results in this error.

John R. Graham · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:53 pm Post subject:

The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:17 pm Post subject:

Thanks! I checked my friend's laptop (the one I updated) and it had this issue also, and could not update. I fixed it on HERS by doing "emerge -avuND --with-bdeps=y @world". I will read the manual page you referenced now. Thanks! I will report success or failure.
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The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:32 pm Post subject:

Alright, on a system which is already working, such as mine or my friend's, using "perl-cleaner --all" OR "emerge -avuND --with-bdeps=yes @world" will fix it. Using the Perl cleaner will do NOTHING on a new install, and if I try the emerge method it tries to pull in all kinds of junk I don't want because I do not have the system setup yet. How can I fix this on a new install before X and KDE are installed? The latest stag3 is from December and that is most-likely the issue.
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John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:44 pm Post subject:

I often select the most basic profile until my system is bootable and stable in a text only mode for this very reason. Try default/linux/x86/13.0 or the equivalent amd64 one if you're 64-bit.

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The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:01 pm Post subject:

My system is bootable. In fact I booted into it and emerged my core things (screen, openssh-blacklist, acpitool, etc etc). I then tried X and hit this. I believe the problem is that the stage3 from December has an older Perl in it and after syncing up during the live CD phase, it is trying to force me to use the new one but it is confused. So what should I do? I want to use the KDE profile when installing X.
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John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:19 pm Post subject:

Then you need to report the exact error message that emerge is reporting on a --deep --newuse (or --changed-use) --update of @world. Installs of new software go much smoother when your system us up to date.

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John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:48 pm Post subject:

A semantic distinction I'm happy to concede. :wink:

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The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:53 pm Post subject:

Either way, here is your message. Pasted directly from an SSH session.

krinn · Watchman Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 7470

You seriously let depclean remove python without asking yourself?
go with eselect python list and set one that you might still have in your system.

if you have no more python, you are the depclean winner of the month.

The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:18 pm Post subject:

I used "-aD --depclean" and it looked fine to me. worked on my already working systems. I just went through this again. Installed, all good. Built kernel, all good. Got into system, check! installed a few shell utilities. Tried installing X, Perl kills me. Rebuild Perl packages. Attempt a depclean. Python is removed. Other Python will not select for some reason.

Something is truly borked here. I did not have this issue until last week. Something that has been updated has hosed me. My only choice now is to put my projects on hold until we get a new stage3 tarball with the Perl stuff in it. I cannot get this working and apparently the other Python needs the new Perl to be selected? o_O
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John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:43 pm Post subject:

Error messages, please. Show us what you did and what the result was. "I tried it and it didn't work," just doesn't cut it for Gentoo support.

Also, are you trying to build on the testing branch? perl-5.20 shouldn't be unmasked on stable.

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The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:39 pm Post subject:

I am not trying testing. I will paste every command I do in order tomorrow when I reload it, again. It is sitting at the office now and I am home. I will post every error but for size's sake I will not post successful results.

For now, here is the process I use.

Boot live CD
Partition (GPT normally)
Format partitions
Mount everything correctly, unzip the latest stage3 archive
Copy in my existing make.conf, kernel .config, and package.* files which I backed up before trying again
Chroot into the new setup
Do a webrsync and sync
Select my profile
Set timezone and configure the package (sys-libs/timezone-data)
Edit the locale.gen file and generate them
Select my locale (enUS.UTF8)
Update the environment and source the profile again
Emerge linux-firmware, then gentoo-sources
Build kernel, install modules, install kernel
Emerge genkernel and install initramfs
Emerge GRUB2, install it, and create the config
Emerge syslog-ng, cronie, and logrotate
Set syslog-ng, cronie, and sshd to start at default
Set root password
Exit chroot and reboot
Emerge a few shell utilities
Attempt to emerge X and foomatic stuff, hit issue

This method has worked a hundred times or more. This only started last week. Details will follow tomorrow.
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John R. Graham · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:10 pm Post subject:

This all looks good and sensible. Add one step for me, please. Between "Exit chroot and reboot" and "Emerge a few shell utilities", please add

Fully update the system by running
Code:

emerge --update --deep --changed-use @selected

At the first point that perl-5.20* is mentioned (or other blockage, really), please stop & report.

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The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:36 pm Post subject:

Very well, I will do that now. I am in the office and I just formatted all of the partitions. I will report back, but I am in and out all day (I am the IT manager here) so please forgive any delay in response.
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The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:10 pm Post subject:

Update fails also.

John R. Graham · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:30 pm Post subject:

The new Perl is not stabilized, so it will not be in a new tarball (except by mistake). Do you have any files at all in /etc/portage/package.keywords (or package.accept_keywords)? If so, please post them. Also, please post the output of

The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:41 pm Post subject:

In my /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords I have the following.

John R. Graham · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:43 pm Post subject:

Have you installed any of these things mentioned in package.accept_keywords yet?

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The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:49 pm Post subject:

No, I posted the commands I type EXACTLY as I did them. Nothing has been installed beyond them.
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John R. Graham · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:52 pm Post subject:

Okay, understood. Something strange is going on. Regardless of my previous admonishment, install just wgetpaste and then get me the entire emerge output that you posted from your picture. Run

The_Great_Sephiroth · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:55 pm Post subject:

Alright, here is the link that you requested.

*UPDATE*

It isn't uploading the error message I sent you, but if I run the command without wgetpaste I see the error.

*UPDATE*

Wait, will wgetpaste capture things output as an error instead of normal output?
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John R. Graham · Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:00 pm Post subject:

Yeah; sorry. That must be written to stderr or else suppressed by pipe detection. Try again with