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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:51 am    Post subject: screw up on x86 mirrors ?? Reply with quote

Hi,

I wanted to do a fresh Gentoo installaiton on my x86 hardware, so I went to follow the installation guide. However, it appears that the stage3 tarballs are now missing from the mirrors. They only show the live iso images.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml
Quote:
Important: New users should read the Handbook as it gives a better overview about the installation process. The Quick Install guide is designed for experienced users who just need a checklist to follow.


Yep, sounds like its for me.

The usual symlink to "current-stage3" is missing from all but ia64 and substituting usual x86 in the links for ia64 gets a 550 from the server.

In December I was able to find a 20141209 release but this has now disappeared , the previous marked release is 20140826 which similarly does not have the link to stage3 tarballs, just iso images.

It looks like some rearrangement of the structure has been going on and the links and installation guide have not been updated.

Is no one testing anything but ia64 any more?


Not an encouraging start to Gentoo. :(
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Code Listing 2.12: Download a stage3 archive

livecd gentoo # links http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml
(Pick a mirror, move to the releases/x86/current-stage3/ directory,
highlight the stage3 of your choice, probably the i686 stage3, and press D to
download it)

(Or download it directly with wget without choosing a nearby mirror)
livecd gentoo # wget ftp://distfiles.gentoo.org/pub/gentoo/releases/x86/current-stage3/stage3-i686-*.tar.bz2



These links are not longer valid.

I was considering doing a hardened installation but that image does not seem to have moved since may 2014. Is that not getting full support anymore?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the handbook you should look into the directories
mirrors/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/...
or
mirrors/gentoo/releases/amd6/autobuilds/...
Perhaps the quick installation guide has not been upgraded correspondingly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it looks like this is badly out of date.

It either needs to be corrected ( which would be good because the handbook is very thorough but laborious if you have half an idea what you're doing ) or it needs a big fat red message at the top saying not to use it any more.

That was near the top of google results when I went looking for installation instructions so it needs fixing.

thx.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentree wrote:
That was near the top of google results when I went looking for installation instructions so it needs fixing

Please report a documentation bug ;)


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, that'll give me something to do while I'm waiting for it all to compile ;)


BTW also get this warning just after chroot:
Code:


warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_GB)

# locale -a
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
C
POSIX



Yet it is in /usr/share/locale

Does it matter at this stage? Thx

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The warnings will vanish after you edited /etc/locale.gen and called locale-get. But this is all described in the handbook (perhaps not in the quickinstall guide).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that. Though it may be explained later, I don't see any comment about this warning in the section on chroot and that it is safe to ignore. Another documentation bug to report ...


I just did the next step with is emerge --sync and it starts spewing out messages about no space left on device, yet it's only half full and is bigger than the handbook says is needed.

Code:

df -h  /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb22      3.0G  1.5G  1.4G  53% /mnt/gentoo


Code:

rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/usr/portage/sci-libs/hdf5" failed: No space left on device (28)
*** Skipping any contents from this failed directory ***
rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/usr/portage/sci-libs/htslib" failed: No space left on device (28)
*** Skipping any contents from this failed directory ***
rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/usr/portage/sci-libs/hypre" failed: No space left on device (28)
*** Skipping any contents from this failed directory ***



Man, I'm starting to remember why I stopped updating my old Gentoo installation :o

[EDIT] I've posted this as a new issue now.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hardened

Quote:
Contributor Nickname Role Still active?
Chris Richards gizmo Policy development, support (SELinux) no
Chris PeBenito pebenito Previous SELinux project lead, policy development and SELinux support no



Guess that answers my question about hardened Gentoo then.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentree wrote:
I just did the next step with is emerge --sync and it starts spewing out messages about no space left on device, yet it's only half full and is bigger than the handbook says is needed.

Code:

df -h  /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb22      3.0G  1.5G  1.4G  53% /mnt/gentoo

I assume you've read this part of the handbook too...?
Quote:
When using ext2, ext3 or ext4 on a small partition (less than 8GB), then the file system must be created with the proper options to reserve enough inodes. The mke2fs application uses the "bytes-per-inode" setting to calculate how many inodes a file system should have. On smaller partitions, it is advised to increase the calculated number of inodes.
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