How long does it take you to install Gentoo?

amulet_linux · n00b Joined: 26 Apr 2014 Posts: 65

*including Xorg installed, web browser, office suite, media player and a text editor. Did you get it?

Sorry if this question has been asked recently, it is like a big forum.
The first time I installed Gentoo in Intel Atom took me 1 week with everything installed: Gimp, Inkscape, Evolution, KDE games... Using i7 I guess it took me less than a day...
And finally installing the Gentoo with uclibc took me 3 hours.

what about you?
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Jaglover · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:21 pm Post subject:

20 minutes of my time, is that what you asked?
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:28 pm Post subject:

Less than an hour ... I don't count CPU time - just my time, so even on a Raspberry Pi, its still under an hour, unless I mess up the kernel.
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Jaglover · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:43 pm Post subject:

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It takes me about 2 hours total I'd say. I don't count time spent messing with hardware to get internet. It is amazing how hard it can be to find cat 5 cables that are not in use.

Although, in theory it should take about 5 minutes. Just resync from my backup and there it is. For some reason, I always like to install from scratch on new hardware. I think it is a sort of "getting to know" my new box thing.

2 hours is probably an overestimate. It goes quickly if you know what you are doing.
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Jaglover · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:02 pm Post subject:

Actually, I take back my 20 min. If I have to configure the kernel from scratch it is more than hour. In most cases I copy over my own kernel seed and make a few changes and it goes real fast.
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:27 pm Post subject:

amulet_linux,

I don't really know elapsed time.
For a new install, I boot system rescue CD. Set up ssh and screen, so I'm not even connected to the target box most of the time.

I copy over /usr/portage, /etc/portage to the new box together with the world file, then run

Jaglover · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:34 am Post subject:

Yes, when I get to the stage when we run emerge -aev @system I use a screen session, too. This allows me to log on from different remote locations and keep it going.
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amulet_linux · n00b Joined: 26 Apr 2014 Posts: 65

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Perfect Gentleman · Veteran Joined: 18 May 2014 Posts: 1249

~amd64, KDE, LIbreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, wine, icedtea - 5 hours

Irre · Guru Joined: 09 Nov 2013 Posts: 434 Location: Stockholm

Not possible to answer. To install on Raspberry PI it takes several days if you rebuild world. On a fast windows machine it takes some days for backup, planning and realllocation of partitions. I installed grub on another partition than windows boot partition and made the grub boot partition active. Via grub I can then boot three Linux, one FreeBSD and chainload Windows boot, without overwriting windows boot record.

I think the best way to test and learn gentoo is to install it on a virtual machine. Oracle virtual machine is free and very suitable.

kite14 · Apprentice Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 216 Location: Italy

I would say a couple of days before all the apps I want are installed.
After one hours I have a bootable system, 2-3 hour later, after tweaking all the USE flags, I have a full desktop (KDE).
Then I start emerging the packages I want. After a couple of days it's all done, but the time I REALLY spend at the keyboard it's down to a couple of hours.

tclover · Guru Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 516

It depends...

* complete noob to GNU/Linux and Gentoo Linux: at least a week of active RTFMing and installation on low power Intel(R) CPU (Core 2 P7200 or something) to get X/GNOME 2 (call it installation from scratch and complete noob);
* half a week, 3-4 days, to finish installation from scratch from an experienced Gentoo User; well, almost a full week to get ALSA/JACK/LXDE/OpenBox/Enlightenment fully installed/configured/functional (quite different from the "from scratch & noob");
* a very few hours with configuration files and 1/2 days to have a functional OS;

Which one to pick up for the poll? This is how pol are just tools to say anything and the opposite with the same data. No wonder _pol science/statistics_ are complete bullshit.
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:16 pm Post subject:

amulet_linux,

Copying over the packages and /etc/portage gives me more flexability than a filesystem clone.
I get to fine tune the USE flags on the new install and only packages that have the correct USE flags set are reused.
The -k means use the binary packages if possible.

Depending on how you do it, a partition clone can copy a lot of empty space too. That can take a long time over an ADSL link.

I was tempted to say that I just click Clone in virt-manager to do a new install but I guess that doesn't answer the intent of your question.
Most of my installs are KVM guests these days.
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avx · Advocate Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 2152

2 hours, at most 3 if it's a machine for a purpose I didn't have yet or if it's a new architecture for me. Kernel from scratch, CFLAGS and USE-Flags take me the longest, while I usually copy over a set of proven configs, there's always some new stuff to check out (just spend ~15mins digging through firefox's ebuild and if that's really all I can configure).

Now that's today where my weekest CPU is a single i5, about ten years ago when I started with Gentoo and was high on KDE, 2-3 days of 100% CPU was normal to me.

It isn't that bad, though, I'd spend the same amount of time with f.e. Fedora, trying to get rid of all the crap and figuring out how all that systemd, polkit and networkmanager crap works(if it works at all, that is). I prefer building up from a sane base instead of trying to strip down a clusterfuck.
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jonathan183 · Guru Joined: 13 Dec 2011 Posts: 318

Typing at the keyboard less than an hour because most of /etc I can re-use. If I'm using an existing installs packages then the machine time is less than 2 hours. From a stage3 with rebuild of system and compiling firefox and libreoffice it can take a few hours on a 64 bit system and a couple of days on an Athlon-XP based system.

Starting from scratch I'd expect it to take about 2 hours of my time but more of the CPU time. I use IceWM so don't build a full DE.

For a laptop install I usually boot from the systemrescuecd and have started using ssh from my desktop, which also lets me keep a copy of the commands used for future reference ... which would reduce my time to do a fresh install significantly in future

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11 years and counting.

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energyman76b · Advocate Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2048 Location: Germany

I actually don't know. Last install was many many years ago. Since then updates were all that was needed.

But I do hate those days when there is the (felt) twenty fifth -rX update of libreoffice + chromium.
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aditya3098 · n00b Joined: 05 Nov 2014 Posts: 19 Location: India

Booted in 5 hours.

Customization: 3 Weeks
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mrbassie · l33t Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 772 Location: over here

started one yesterday, finished it today. Only reason it took so long is I forgot to bring my kernel .config to work so I left it sitting in the chroot. probably took less than an hour really. I've copied over /var/lib/world too and I've just run emerge -e world . I'm guessing that will take a couple of days.