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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 1:41 pm    Post subject: How is FreeBSD? Reply with quote

Hello,

Newbie playing around with various distros.
I have installed RH7.3, Suse 8, Libranet 2.0 and Gentoo.
of course, Gentoo is my main distro.
Anyway, I have been looking at FreBSD and was wondering if someone that has used it could coment on it's features and how it compares to Gentoo.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's fast.
I tried it a couple of years ago... I was unable to make some hardware works, so I gave up as a client.
But as a server, I heard pretty good things...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DISCLAIMER: I haven't installed or used FreeBSD.

fmalabre wrote:
It's fast.
I tried it a couple of years ago... I was unable to make some hardware works, so I gave up as a client.
But as a server, I heard pretty good things...
This is the reason I haven't tried it yet. Although, I did actually burn a CD of it. Linux seems to have better hardware support.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the hardware, I had heard that to. I burned 4.6, but am leary to try it. also because I have a dual-boot system now with Gentoo, XP, RedHat and Libranet installed. If I dod decide to try it, one has to go, might be redhat.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, why do you have that many systems???

I have only two, one for games, and one for work ;-)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just experimenting to see which one I like better.
I heard good things about debian, so I thought I would try it.
redhat, I thought woul dbe good to learn for business profession.
anyway, now that I have gentoo working, I just love the emerge command.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In dual boot, there is the word dual, which means 2.
So, it's not a dual boot that you have, it's a quadal boot?
Just kidding... :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:D Its a good thing I ran out of partitions.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what extended partitions are for 8O
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't give me any ideas.. :idea: :D
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wonder... how big is your hard drive?

Few ideas for you:
Mandrake (I was using that before Gentoo)
Hurd (they have a working version, and if I really had room on my hd, I would try)

Good luck 8O
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

80 gig
I tried Mandrake, it is ok, but I like the feel of gentoo.
I could not get openuniverse to run in Mandrake.
Redhat, Suse and Gentoo ran it fine.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BSD is fast.
It supports every desktop hardware i've thrown at it.
It has a generic sond driver which is useful if you don't know wtf your sound card is.
It's a hella good server OS.

I couldn't ever get my aincient compaq laptp to work w/ a pccard netcard. Supposedly this will be fixed in freebsd 5.
It has limited software support. I had trouble w/ vmware and turboprint when i used it on my desktop.

On my desktop i abandoned it for gentoo.
I still use it on my server.
When 5 is out i'll put it back on the above mentioned laptop. (it just functiones as an internet machine).

On a decently fast desktop it has no advantages over gentoo and a bunch of campatability problems.
Good luck running it (at lest 4) on a laptop.
It's a good server OS.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend you to give BSD a try.. ;)

If you have Nvidia video card, then forget BSD and stick to Linux if you are expecting for OpenGL, DRI, 3D and other supports. Yes, you still can run FreeBSD with Nvidia with basic stuff such as Divx, movie, regular desktop and etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a NVidia Geforce3 and Audigy sound card.
I tried to install FreeBSD 4.6 and could not get past the setup.
It said it could not mount my cdrom.

Gentoo is working fine and I really like it alot.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually have FreeBSD on my computer, but I don't really use it.

I have a nVidia card, and as is stated earlier in this thread, GLX and the like isn't supported, which I don't really mind. However, there's two nVidia drivers. One is a wrapper for the Linux ones, which I couldn't get to work, and another is a native implementation (alpha/beta/something). I got that to work, but when I try to switch between the console and X, refresh rates get screwed up and I have to reboot. So I'm stuck using the default, unaccelerated X driver, which just feels klunky.

I haven't had any problems with any other hardware, though (USB works by default, yay :)). And everything else about it seems to be just fine, so I'd say give it a try.

P.S. I also gave OpenBSD a try, which I wouldn't recommend. Their ports tree was outdated in a lot of cases, there was no nVidia driver (not even in development), and when I modified my partition table with something other than OpenBSD fdisk, I think it killed it. Then again, I don't think they really claim to be the best desktop system out there. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now, I have Gentoo and Libranet installed and am giving it a whirl.
Too bad about BSD, I really wanted to try it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Libranet? How is it?

I just don't understand why people need 2 Unix systems...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was not trying to suggest that more than one linux system is needed.
I am only experimenting with the various distro's
My favorite is Gentoo, but Libranet is nice also. Easy to install and maintain.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

afaik the nvidia driver is really bad on freebsd (conversion shit legacy from main driver), if anyone has some info that says otherwise I'll try it again :)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2002 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theyre workin on the nvidia driver over at http://nvidia.netexplorer.org they have something that is (supposedly) mostly useable but theyre still workin on 3d (opengl) support.

as for the rest of freebsd, its a really great system, especially if you want to run a server and most gentoo people will find a lot of similarities between the two... however IMHO gnu and linux are sort of an overpowering force in unix these days and so a lot of other unixes like freebsd are forced to jump through hoops to get common programs to run (for example kde) that were originaly meant for linux.
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