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ak47gen n00b
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 43
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:40 pm Post subject: Gentoo Linux on Linux Insider |
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So apparently Linux Insider did an article on Gentoo. They talked about the two things Gentoo is known for; Speed and Customization. Though as a Gentoo user, I rarely find speed a driving factor anymore. Yes ZOMG CFLAGS...may help a little on speed (though pretty much march=native makes everything easy), you are not getting much of a night and day approach. Though what I do find helpful is the fact I can set my use flags to stricken applications. Maybe I want Samba, but I don't want printing support (CUPS), well that is one less thing I have to worry about and have to patch. The two driving factors for Gentoo for me are. Portage is very huge and I rarely have issues finding what I want in it. The other factor is system hardening. I can engineer my system from kernel up. I don't have to worry about patching or securing things I don't have to have. I also can implement PaX and other security features that address attacks which most distro's are vulnerable. I am not sure who else uses Gentoo for that reason.
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Gentoo-Linux-Initiates-Iron-Penguin-May-Be-Too-Heavy-81207.html |
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The Doctor Moderator
Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 2678
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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I don't want to sound too harsh, but it doesn't sound like the person writing the review actually understands what Gentoo is or what it intends to be. For example, it references KDE as the default desktop and makes porthole sound like it is the way to manage packages.
I would peg the 'killer app' of Gentoo for me is choice. I can choose not to use KDE, Gnome, udev, etc. The review doesn't even mention this. _________________ First things first, but not necessarily in that order.
Apologies if I take a while to respond. I'm currently working on the dematerialization circuit for my blue box. |
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ak47gen n00b
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 43
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with what you said. Also I didn't even know about porthole until I read the article. Though I think the article is confusing itself with the Live CD gentoo that was released, VS Gentoo as a whole. Either way I am glad they didn't mention funroll-loops. |
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Chiitoo Administrator
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 2575 Location: Here and Away Again
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: ><)))°€ |
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Heh.
It definitely should have been titled a review of the LiveDVD instead.
Even if speaking of only the LiveDVD, there are things not quite right with it. For one, a mere peek at the description would tell that KDE is not the only DE even for the LiveDVD, nor is Chromium the only available web-browser:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/20140826-livedvd.xml wrote: | Packages included in this release: Linux Kernel 3.15.6, Xorg 1.16.0, KDE 4.13.3, Gnome 3.12.2, XFCE 4.10, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LXQT Desktop 0.7.0, i3 Desktop 2.8, Firefox 31.0, LibreOffice 4.2.5.2, Gimp 2.8.10-r1, Blender 2.71-r1, Amarok 2.8.0-r2, Chromium 37.0.2062.35 and much more ... |
It also didn't talk about the actual installation process, except for to “prepare for some steep learning curves and lots of manual labor” as well as Gentoo living up to a reputation of being “cumbersome to install and configure”. Oh, and that “you can not expect to install this distro easily and have it work out-of-the-box”.
Ha! I've had more trouble installing Ubuntu and friends, but I digress...
To review the review, I would give it a not very accurate, and possibly misleading.
Regardless, it is cool to see Gentoo being talked about! ^^ _________________ Kindest of regardses. |
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Fitzcarraldo Advocate
Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Posts: 2034 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Well, it was good to see Gentoo mentioned in the wider 'press', but it was a poor review. Tinkering for a few minutes with the LiveDVD does not constitute a decent examination of the OS. I don't think he even realised that the DM menu of the LiveDVD allows the user to select either E16, Fluxbox, GNOME, GNOME Classic, LXQt, Openbox, WindowMaker, XSession, Xfce4 or i3 instead of KDE. _________________ Clevo W230SS: amd64, VIDEO_CARDS="intel modesetting nvidia".
Compal NBLB2: ~amd64, xf86-video-ati. Dual boot Win 7 Pro 64-bit.
OpenRC udev elogind & KDE on both.
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Perfect Gentleman Veteran
Joined: 18 May 2014 Posts: 1249
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: |
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One of the shittiest review ever written. That journalist is as dumb as hell. |
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i92guboj Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 10315 Location: Córdoba (Spain)
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Trying to write a review for such kind of OS (not just Gentoo, but FreeBSD, LFS...) is pretentious enough so that I won't even waste my time reading it. I guess it's something around the lines of "oh yes, I move my mouse and write a couple of commands in a term". That usually works in mainstream distros because, well, all people care about is how the UI looks and feels, which on the other side is quite a pointless subject in Gentoo.
The closest thing to a "Gentoo review" you'll ever get is the Gentoo Handbook, the rest is just that: someone trying to convince people who gon't give a shit about what they are being told that he's the true father of Luke Skywalker |
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steveL Watchman
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 5153 Location: The Peanut Gallery
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:38 am Post subject: |
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i92guboj wrote: | someone trying to convince people who gon't give a shit about what they are being told that he's the true father of Luke Skywalker :lol: |
NOOO!! ;-) |
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