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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

those "BAD COUNTER" errors during inject are fine.

you can let it emerge libtool, it will just overwrite the existing install with newer version.

just do:
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emerge inject sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r1
emerge portage > /tmp/portage.log 2>&1 &
tail -f /tmp/portage.log


there is a bug in ncurses-5.4, so you don't want that version for now. Rest of the packages required by portage are safe to emerge, so just type above commands and relax.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:57 am    Post subject: /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py broken Reply with quote

I downloaded http://dev.gentoo.org/~carpaski/portage_rescue/portage-rescue-2.0.44-ppc.tbz2 and extracted it. When doing an emerge sync I got the following response:

Code:
# emerge sync
>>> Note: /etc/make.profile isn't available; an 'emerge sync' will probably fix this.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 2, in ?
    import os,sys,portage,xpak,string,re,commands,time,threading,shutil
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py", line 4135, in ?
    do_vartree()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py", line 4128, in do_vartree
    del x
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'x' referenced before assignment


It appears that there are two tab stops mising in /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py on line 4128:

Code:

      for x in myvkeys:
         vkeysplit=x.split("/")
         if not virts_p.has_key(vkeysplit[1]):
            virts_p[vkeysplit[1]]=virts[x]
# Was before
#       del x
# but should be
            del x


After changing this, emerge sync works. Someone should probably fix this...

/Jakob Malm
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.0.44 is ollllddddd, portage stands at 2.0.50-r1 ATM, I think it should be fixed by now...we won't be having it running on all kinds of platforms otherwise... :D
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm welll i tried hard to get that script going on Slackware - and I'm sorry to say that it was just no go. Everything you suggested still left me trying to get gentoo's libtools to emerge - and nothing I did would make it do that.

I also just toasted a perfectly good SuSe system by trying it, which promptly crapped out on some python compiling error (similar to the last but with a completely seperate ebuild this time).

So maybe I should try the tarball method? The only problem is that I can't even extract the tarball cleanly at this time.

If I try I get this error::

Code:
tar xjpUvf portage-rescue-2.0.50-r1-x86.tbz2 -C

./
./etc/
tar: ./etc: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./etc/make.globals
./etc/etc-update.conf
./etc/dispatch-conf.conf
./etc/make.conf.example
./lib/
tar: ./lib: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./lib/libsandbox.so
./var/
tar: ./var: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./var/tmp/
tar: ./var/tmp: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./var/tmp/.keep
./usr/
tar: ./usr: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/bin/
tar: ./usr/bin: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/bin/xpak
./usr/bin/repoman
./usr/bin/g-cpan.pl
./usr/bin/portageq
./usr/bin/emerge
./usr/bin/quickpkg
./usr/bin/tbz2tool
./usr/lib/
tar: ./usr/lib: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/lib/python2.2/
tar: ./usr/lib/python2.2: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/
tar: ./usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/missingos.so
./usr/lib/portage/
tar: ./usr/lib/portage: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/lib/portage/bin/
tar: ./usr/lib/portage/bin: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/lib/portage/bin/fixpackages
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dispatch-conf-dialog
./usr/lib/portage/bin/domo
./usr/lib/portage/bin/xpak
./usr/lib/portage/bin/queryhost.sh
./usr/lib/portage/bin/fix-db.py
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dolib.so
./usr/lib/portage/bin/donewins
./usr/lib/portage/bin/mirror.py
./usr/lib/portage/bin/env-update
./usr/lib/portage/bin/fixdbentries
./usr/lib/portage/bin/repoman
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dopython
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dobin
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dodir
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dodoc
./usr/lib/portage/bin/doexe
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dojar
./usr/lib/portage/bin/doins
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dolib
./usr/lib/portage/bin/doman
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dosed
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dosym
./usr/lib/portage/bin/emake
./usr/lib/portage/bin/pmake
./usr/lib/portage/bin/etc-update
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dolib.a
./usr/lib/portage/bin/sandbox
./usr/lib/portage/bin/g-cpan.pl
./usr/lib/portage/bin/emerge-webrsync
./usr/lib/portage/bin/regenworld
./usr/lib/portage/bin/chkcontents
./usr/lib/portage/bin/portageq
./usr/lib/portage/bin/prepstrip
./usr/lib/portage/bin/archive-conf
./usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dohard
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dohtml
./usr/lib/portage/bin/doinfo
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dosbin
./usr/lib/portage/bin/emerge
./usr/lib/portage/bin/fowners
./usr/lib/portage/bin/fperms
./usr/lib/portage/bin/newsbin
./usr/lib/portage/bin/prepallman
./usr/lib/portage/bin/pkgmerge.new
./usr/lib/portage/bin/db-update.py
./usr/lib/portage/bin/newbin
./usr/lib/portage/bin/newdoc
./usr/lib/portage/bin/newexe
./usr/lib/portage/bin/newins
./usr/lib/portage/bin/newman
./usr/lib/portage/bin/dispatch-conf
./usr/lib/portage/bin/md5check.py
./usr/lib/portage/bin/md5check.sh
./usr/lib/portage/bin/extra_functions.sh
./usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh
./usr/lib/portage/bin/preplib.so
./usr/lib/portage/bin/pkgmerge
./usr/lib/portage/bin/prepinfo
./usr/lib/portage/bin/prepallstrip
./usr/lib/portage/bin/newlib.a
./usr/lib/portage/bin/quickpkg
./usr/lib/portage/bin/emergehelp.py
./usr/lib/portage/bin/prepalldocs
./usr/lib/portage/bin/prepallinfo
./usr/lib/portage/bin/pkgname
./usr/lib/portage/bin/newlib.so
./usr/lib/portage/bin/find-requires
./usr/lib/portage/bin/tbz2tool
./usr/lib/portage/bin/fixvirtuals
./usr/lib/portage/bin/prepall
./usr/lib/portage/bin/preplib
./usr/lib/portage/bin/prepman
./usr/lib/portage/lib/
tar: ./usr/lib/portage/lib: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/lib/portage/lib/sandbox.bashrc
./usr/lib/portage/pym/
tar: ./usr/lib/portage/pym: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_anydbm.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/xpak.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_test.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_flat.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/dispatch_conf.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/dcdialog.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_cpickle.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/getbinpkg.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/cvstree.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/output.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/emergehelp.py
./usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_template.py
./usr/sbin/
tar: ./usr/sbin: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/sbin/fixpackages
./usr/sbin/env-update
./usr/sbin/etc-update
./usr/sbin/emerge-webrsync
./usr/sbin/regenworld
./usr/sbin/archive-conf
./usr/sbin/ebuild
./usr/sbin/dispatch-conf
./usr/sbin/ebuild.sh
./usr/sbin/pkgmerge
./usr/share/
tar: ./usr/share: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/share/doc/
tar: ./usr/share/doc: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/share/doc/portage-2.0.50-r1/
tar: ./usr/share/doc/portage-2.0.50-r1: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/share/doc/portage-2.0.50-r1/ChangeLog.gz
./usr/share/man/
tar: ./usr/share/man: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/share/man/man1/
tar: ./usr/share/man/man1: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/share/man/man1/ebuild.1.gz
./usr/share/man/man1/repoman.1.gz
./usr/share/man/man1/etc-update.1.gz
./usr/share/man/man1/emerge.1.gz
./usr/share/man/man1/quickpkg.1.gz
./usr/share/man/man1/env-update.1.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/
tar: ./usr/share/man/man5: Cannot unlink: Directory not empty
./usr/share/man/man5/vim.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/eutils.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/cvs.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/ebuild.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/ssl-cert.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/portage.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/games.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/rpm.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/make.conf.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/perl-module.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/flag-o-matic.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/stardict.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/gcc.eclass.5.gz
./usr/share/man/man5/distutils.eclass.5.gz

bzip2: (stdin): trailing garbage after EOF ignored
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
linux:~ #


I assume that these are more than just the superficial errors that the readme referes to?

GJ

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude, you have to stick with one thing. what happened when you typed:
Code:
emerge inject sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r1
emerge portage > /tmp/portage.log 2>&1 &
tail -f /tmp/portage.log


according to the output of "emerge -p portage" that you showed me, it would have tried to emerge libtool...what errors did you see in /tmp/portage.log when it tried to emerge libtool?

If you don't want it to emerge libtool, just inject libtool and go on with "emerge portage" step.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to help you if you do random things and not report the output of the commands I ask you to run. you were so close when I asked you to fire that "emerge portage > /tmp...." command. you never told me what errors it gave you.

sorry about the toasted SuSe system...but hey, this post has a warning in the beginning!!
EDIT/ I saw the output of zlib merge yesterday which proved that basic aspects of the portage were working correctly long time ago....another thing, with this post I just became a Guru.... :D
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I kinda thought I was being helpful. I thought that maybe the best approach was a clean start - so I moved on to Suse.

It didn't seem very random at the time. I'm sure you really can't be around 24/7 - but its tough to live for long periods of time with a machine in various stages of limbo.

I thought since you said you never experienced any difficulties like this on other distros that maybe that was the best answer.

In any case Slacksware is no more. I had used Suse previously to Slackware anyway - but I've always been kind of dissapointed with the package selection on Suse. Things can get old pretty fast.

Nonetheless I really do appreciate all your effort and if toasting a Suse install is what it takes to get portage going - then so be it.

I think the rescue tarball approach is probably the best method. I don't suppose you could reinstate your original instructions for the tarball - as there are still quite a few mirrors that are serving it? Also what do you think is causing those errors when I try to unpack it?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that warning is fine according to the README...

I think the exact command was supposed to be:
Code:
tar xjpUvf portage-rescue-2.0.50-r1-x86.tbz2 -C /


then you are supposed to do:

Code:
export FEATURES="-sandbox"
emerge sync
emerge portage
unset FEATURES
emerge metadata
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm... No the package should extract cleanly - and quite with warnings about garbage - what that is is an additonal error message. I've seen it do it before on Slackware - but for some reason I can't quite recall at this time some other problem cropped up that stopped me from using it.

Well anyway I'm enjoying a bit of a first ATM - for the first time in two years of messing with Linux I have finally got a full accelerated digital optical sound and full blown accelerated video running. I have just finished playing a game of GTA Vice city via WineX - and have been unable to notice any kind of significant performance hit from doing so.

It was an interesting experience - but it does rather show that you have to be fairly commited to get anywhere with Linux.

Anyhoo I digress - the package should quit cleanly - with only some warnings about garbage - but I don't think there should be an error message there.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you notice that your command was incomplete (trailing "/" was missing)...so, unless you were doing it from /, it would be messy anyway....if you emerge sync despite the tar error, what happens? emerge sync is pretty harmless, in the sens that its not installing/modifying any packages.

another thing: "emerge portage" will try to emerge the whole world of packages...manually inject the packages that you injected yesterday e.g. like baselayout, gcc, glibc, pam,...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: mmm Reply with quote

it took me like 2 months to get
xinelibs working on fedora

and portage just installed it
:D

dammmmmmmmmm
this is mad


so help me out

1) could i install fedora with the minial settings, and/or desktop settings..
then give it a portage layer and then use portage for everything?

2) would portage work on cygwin?

3) would portage work on freedos (like i saw posted before)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mahir,

1. doable. you can infact gentoofy your minimal fedora install with this...
2. more doable than having portage on solaris. I had some trouble porting portage on solaris but its working great now(I recently emerged KDE with it:D ). So, go for it!
3. no idea!

for all 3, you should be ready to put in extra work to set it up and be ready to take on code walkthrough's and fix problems, familiarity with python and shell scripting would help...this link might come in handy when looking at portage code:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~g2boojum/portage.html
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got it perfectly installed now error's but when i continue as you can see below i get this error and i don't know how to adjust it or to fix it i'm running slackware plz help.

Code:
root@linux:~# export FEATURES="-sandbox"
root@linux:~# emerge sync
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 6, in ?
    import os,sys,portage,emergehelp,xpak,string,re,commands,time,threading,shutil,traceback
ImportError: No module named portage


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which version did you install?

>=2.0.50 looks in /usr/lib/portage/pym for modules. Does that dir have portage.py?

earlier versions used to look at /usr/lib/python2.[23]/site-packages, so you should have portage.py.
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thx man the problem is solved
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some very interesting news to report on this project... I have used the scripts here on a variety of systems, fedora, suse, slackware and a few other versios of redhat and i find that the version if python installed in most common fedora, slackware and suse system has a problem with gentoo portage. I ran the script and the install failed with missingos not found and emerge halting with python modules not being found. I merely built python-2.3.3.tbz2 on a system with a comparable cpu, wget the file from the server, extract python-2.3.3.tbz2 to / then cd /usr/bin && rm -f python && ln -s python2.3 python and re-run the script and it will work without a problem :D

I will post more on this very soon. I have done this on three different dedicated servers and it worked every time.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: mmm Reply with quote

mahir wrote:
2) would portage work on cygwin?

It does, but one of the greatest problem seems to be, that many packages depend on glibc which is not ported to cygwin. (hope it will ever be) So many packages fail to compile... :-(

[1] http://www.toso-digitals.de/gentoo/index.html
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030707-newsletter.xml#doc_chap1_sect3
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: mmm Reply with quote

sirro wrote:
mahir wrote:
2) would portage work on cygwin?

It does, but one of the greatest problem seems to be, that many packages depend on glibc which is not ported to cygwin. (hope it will ever be) So many packages fail to compile... :-(


Many packages are already ported to cygwin in a way that when you build them from sources manually and run configure it detects cygwin and is aware of "no glibc in cygwin" problem. I build from sources: python, perl, guile, apache, windowmaker, texmacs, emacs, cvs, ssh, postgresql and many other useful command line and X11 programs.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there no libc on cygwin? is that even possible? solaris doesn't have glibc either, but libc.so was enough for me to get portage working on solaris and install KDE 3.2 with it and it works pretty well.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man, this sounds complicated.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad idea. Installing portage on other distros makes the entire point of Gentoo, Portage, devoid. If it's on other distros then the inscentive to use gentoo is effectively removed. If you want portage, use Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uglyb0b wrote:
Installing portage on other distros makes the entire point of Gentoo, Portage, devoid.

Using Portage supports Gentoo's philosophy, i dont think it destroys it. I'd rather see people with mandrake and portage opposed to windows and not portage.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

provicemo wrote:
uglyb0b wrote:
Installing portage on other distros makes the entire point of Gentoo, Portage, devoid.

Using Portage supports Gentoo's philosophy, i dont think it destroys it. I'd rather see people with mandrake and portage opposed to windows and not portage.


sure, but everyone knows that the contrast between Mandrake and Gentoo is larger than Windows and Linux. Why use Gentoo when you can use emerge and some other distro is a much more different question than use Linux or Windows.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uglyb0b wrote:
sure, but everyone knows that the contrast between Mandrake and Gentoo is larger than Windows and Linux.


Everyone knows? No, I don't. I don't know that windows (which version?) has more similarities to Linux (which distro?) than Mandrake and Gentoo.

A big point of Gentoo is Portage. If portage is spreaded then it's a big part of Gentoo is spreaded.

And what's the problem if Mandrake users will improve their Linux experience? Besides, generally being happy for more happy people, I appreciate if Mandrake users will post bugs back to Portage bugzilla. Even more - post their enhancement ideas.

Finally, it's an open source project. You cannot tell them "Stop it!" and expect them to stop. People often doing interesting things because they can, not even because they have to.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:54 am    Post subject: mm Reply with quote

portage and urmpi

gentoo and mandrake.


i dont see the point in the argument..

or the debate even...

they are completely different..

like you said, the whole point go gentoo IS portage...

and the whole point to mandrake is what exactly?

you cant take urpmi and put it on gentoo (cos, well you could - but it wouldnt be worth it)

however you can take portage and more or less put it on CYGWIN (an extreme example, but it works and you get my point)

the reason why people use windows more then most other os's for desktop systems (apart from unfair tactics etc) is cos its efficient. its not FUN, but it works, (badly) but yea -
it works--


and well

rpm is mmmmmmmmmmmm lame
so lame, they had to add apt-get to it, to make it worth using
urmpi needs a console to work on anyway (from what i remember)
apt-get is ok, but
common
its APT-GET


apt-get install bla
compared too

emerge bla

if you can take portage and use it on other distro's

why arent we pushing it?

if you found an item of code, that workd for a peice of software, that made the whole use of that program and software easier, more secure and more efficient(cost-efficient even) wouldnt u share the wealth?

so portage is our wealth..



actually
somebody should start a poll

comparing effeciency of portage against other install systems..

like a benchmark for source-installtions between portage and apt-get and/or urpmi.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Finally, it's an open source project. You cannot tell them "Stop it!" and expect them to stop. People often doing interesting things because they can, not even because they have to.


Sure, I know that. Yet, I think that if you want portage you should use Gentoo. I like to think of myself as a software purist.

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a benchmark for source-installtions between portage and apt-get and/or urpmi.


Exactly right. I think that binary distributions may be quicker to install, but they may not be as fast. Source distributions are more time consuming, and may not give THAT much of a performance boost, but a boost it is.

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