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| Yes. And they should be replaced (at least partially) by asterisks. |
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| Yes. And they should be replaced by other words. |
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Ateo
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| christsong84 wrote: | heh...I never said I was for censorship...I said I was for an option of a filter for just certain people who would want it. Nothing wrong with that is there? I understand people's rights for freedom of speech and I support people saying what they want. I'm also for freedom of choice including what comes through my comptuer screen. I love these forums and they have been most useful to me...and I hope I've been useful to others as well in some way. It's not big enough an issue to leave or to kick others out over...just wondering if there's even such a tool as an option for some.
I apologize, -Amoeba-, tones don't carry well and it sounded to me like you were quite offended at the possibility of censorship. My bad there in misinterpreting what you typed. |
No apology needed. You've done no harm.
I think that would be a great function actually.. It would be a great idea if future releases of PHPPBB's profile included individual censoring filters. That way everyone is happy. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:02 am Post subject: |
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solutions:
get a privacy screen
get a old LCD with a limited range of view
but seriously.. just use offensive words more and I'm sure your mother will open up =D
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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We will not be censoring words that some folks might find offensive.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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That's good news kurt, and as it should be. I think the poll results show that most of us agree, and this forum is quite civil anyway.
BTW, I find "censorship" to be more offensive than any four-letter word. |
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nevynxxx
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Kurt, Whats your (personal or official, I don't mind) view on having an option built into the forum system to replace a given word with something else:-
1) if it was an option in phpBB?
2) if it meant one of our dev's adding the functionality in?
would the function be availible in either case? that way people like ronmon wouldn't have to view the word censorship anymore and could instead see "**********". :)
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ronmon wrote: | | BTW, I find "censorship" to be more offensive than any four-letter word. |
Lately I read on another site that "high interactivity is a privilege, not a right", and IMHO people relying on four-letter-words to bring their points across can not have so much to say that the term "censorship" would apply to a change in their posts...
| Spawn of Lovechild wrote: | | I say if something like that ever happens I'm leaving in protest. |
As this is not OTW, and nobody else commented this, neither will I... |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| nevynxxx wrote: | Kurt, Whats your (personal or official, I don't mind) view on having an option built into the forum system to replace a given word with something else:-
1) if it was an option in phpBB? |
That option already exists in phpBB. It's not something we're going to use. I may think that the term "plonker" is highly offensive. Other folks may consider it perfectly reasonable. These forums are not in the business of deciding what words are and are not offensive.
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I suppose I am not to take all of that literally (especially the 'blocked' part), eh? 
Anyway, it's well and good that this suggestion of mine is being turned down since most people don't seem to want a word filter feature. I'll just wait till phpBB writes an optional word filter feature into their bbs and gentoo forums are upgraded to that version. I don't have an alternative, do I? I have to accept the general standards of freedom... regardless of whether I want to or not.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| klieber wrote: |
That option already exists in phpBB. It's not something we're going to use. I may think that the term "plonker" is highly offensive. Other folks may consider it perfectly reasonable. These forums are not in the business of deciding what words are and are not offensive.
--kurt |
Sorry I should make it more clear that I meant on a per user basis. I Agree totally that it should never be a global thing. But I couldn't harm to have an option on the user's option screen that say's "replace <word> with <word>" if it could be reasonably done.
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Personally, I feel that people stressing over foul language is just silly. The way you say something, means so much more then what you actually say.
I can call my girlfriend a bitch, and she knows that when I say it, I am saying it with all the love in my heart. (God, that was a bit sappy.) Or I can say to someone i despise "Well it was wonderful to see you, and I certainly hope you have a long and happy life" .... but say it in such a way as to spit pure venom and hatred at them.
In verbal discussions... I cuss like a sailor, constantly, the only time i stop is around children in public. I may be an asshole, but it is most certainly not my place to be using F words and C words in front of 4 year old little timmy. That is just plain rude.
Why do I find it necessary to use such foul language? Don't I know it makes me seem less intelligent? Yes! That is exactly the idea behind it as well! .......Nobody asks the moron to fix their pc.....
......Now if I could just quit dragging myself into political and religious discussions and showing myself as an obvious "fake fool"..........
As to the PHPBB or Mozilla options on a per user basis, that would be an excellent idea. It would also be another tool to aid parents in protecting their children from such content if they so desired.
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| Vishruth wrote: | | Quote: | Gentoo Forums - Registration Agreement Terms
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I suppose I am not to take all of that literally (especially the 'blocked' part), eh? |
Well that's just the point isn't it. What you may find obscene or vulgar, I may find rather blasé. Who's to choose where the line between acceptable and unacceptable language lies? You? Me? <insert random forum mod>?
If the forums began to censor every swear-word then they might as well change the name of the distro to Teletubbies Linux too. |
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| Oid wrote: | | As to the PHPBB or Mozilla options on a per user basis, that would be an excellent idea. |
emerge privoxy (Why haven't I thought of this earlier?  I think the thought of not altering tags, but text seemed strange to me...)
s/fnord/fnord/g and you're done...and as I take no offense in four letter words, I will use this to get rid of words I really can't stand anymore:
s/zealot/troglodyte/g
s/tinfoil/propeller/g
Edit: Ok, I filtered myself  replace the first fnord with your dearest offence please... |
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curtis119
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I agree with Spawnoflovechild. Censorship has no place here.
Censorship is evil no matter what the motivation. Most of us on this forum are adults and can censor ourselves without 'Mommy' washing our mouths out with soap. Sometimes cursing is the only way to truly convey the emotion behind your words.
I'm sorry you're mom doesn't understand this but it's not my problem. It's yours. Have a talk with her and tell her this:
| Quote: | | Just because the other lemmings are jumping off the cliff doesn't mean that I will. You've been a great parent and have instilled a great moral sense in me. Thank you. Now trust me to follow that moral sense and QUIT LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER GOD DAMMIT!!!!! |
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| erm what he is asking for is not censorship ffs, it's a make forums safe for work option, it's OFF by default so whats the problem, it is not censorship if it can easily be disabled, it's OPTIONAL |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| viperlin wrote: | | erm what he is asking for is not censorship ffs, it's a make forums safe for work option, it's OFF by default so whats the problem, it is not censorship if it can easily be disabled, it's OPTIONAL |
So, if someone were to post something along the lines of:
O F F E N S I V E
W O R D
That would be OK? Filtering (or rather, replacing "offensive" words with *'s) was already tried. It didn't work well.
Unless I am mistaken, it is either on for everyone, or off for everyone.
If the next version of phpbb offers profile based filtering, that would be one option.
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