Successful Update Again!!! Will this Madness Never End????

John R. Graham

Okay, I'm a little frustrated. This is like the thousandth time in a row that I have successfully updated my various Gentoo boxes. I mean, sure: sometimes, things don't go completely perfectly, but I'm always able to correct it without reinstalling.

Other people get to erase their hard drives, start over, redo their partitions juuuust right, and have the pleasure of reinstalling Gentoo, but NOT ME!!! I repeat, will this madness never end??? The Gentoo Developers HAVE to do something!!!!

- John
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ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

Just because your system is working perfectly, doesn't mean you can't wipe the drive and reinstall anyways

Anyways, I think it's the other way around, you have the pleasure of not having to reinstall Gentoo, because it updates correctly, while everyone else gets to deal with the frustration of reinstalling Gentoo soo many times.

davidm · Guru Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 557 Location: US

No problems here either. I switched to Gentoo again about a month ago. In fact I'm considering whether to go ~amd64 from amd64.

ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

I've been running ~amd64 since I've started using Gentoo, and I normally don't have too many issues. The only issues I usually encounter is the occasional bad digest that is fixed within 24 hrs, and the rare issues like eselect-opengl breaking the system. The only other times I ever need to do something, is when I encounter a package not compiling, and all I do then is just mask it and wait till it gets fixed (of course making sure there's a bug report open). Outside of updating, my systems rarely crashes. Ironically enough, the only package I have crash/segfault is marked stable in portage, and waiting for the dev to look at the bug report and bump the package version with the patch (upstream already accepted and commited that patch).

BlueFusion · Guru Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 371

I, too, seem to miss out on the joys of repartitioning, reformatting, and re-installing Gentoo. I used to do it from a Stage1 or Stage2 install, for no purpose other than to say "Damnit. I built this. With my own two processing cores" and grin at the success of finally getting xorg.conf set just the way I like it - barely working with Nvidia's binary driver.

Nowadays, other than getting a new machine, I don't re-install. I've been running the same rolling-release Gentoo install on my desktop for atleast 9 years now. And that went through an entire hardware upgrade*.

* I don't consider a "Stage 4" tarball install a re-install. It's merely partitioning, formatting, and ending up with the same stuff you had before....and then the pleasures of doing an --emptytree rebuild with new CFLAGS! Oh what joy!
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keet · Guru Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 568

You could always buy a new hard drive or try a new filesystem. I've been using the same Gentoo installation since I built this computer almost four years ago, but I've emerged -e world a few times, switched to an S.S.D. and back, encrypted my hard drive, and changed partition layouts a few times. If you're really anxious, you could always reinstall Gentoo from the beginning in a virtual machine. I find it a good motivation for rereading the installation guides.

Jaglover · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:03 am Post subject:

I have same issue here. Although I'm running ~arch in all my boxes I'm able to fix most of build problems quick. I know I cannot take away other peoples joy to install Gentoo, but often when reading Install forum I'd like to offer to install the base over SSH ...
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John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:17 am Post subject:

khayyam · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:21 am Post subject:

I was going to be similarly smug and say I have the exact same problem ... but then john jinxed me!!! :)

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Al-Caveman · n00b Joined: 21 Sep 2014 Posts: 39

I heard that using overlays is a good way to break out of such endless boredom of sanity.

John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:10 am Post subject:

Atmmac · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:09 pm Post subject:

Kudos to the gentoo dev's. I am running ~amd64 with no problems at all. No need to re-install ever. Thanks for the solid OS.

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Ant P. · Watchman Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920

Who said anything about not updating?

khayyam · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:00 pm Post subject:

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:22 pm Post subject:

khayyam,

This will fix it but it might mean a new install.
You will also need the gentoo-static overlay, which is horribly out of date as I'm frighened of git :)
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khayyam · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:04 pm Post subject:

john.newman · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Posts: 85

I've had the same "install" since ..... 2004 I think? 2004 or 2005 ish. I can't remember exactly. It has been rather boring lately.

Maybe I could try lennux

John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:25 pm Post subject:

khayyam · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:28 pm Post subject:

grot · n00b Joined: 17 Dec 2014 Posts: 33

Just wondering.. how often do you all take risks with your system?

Do you ever run two emerges at once? Or do you try to run commands safely?

Thinking about it, I've probably borked well over a hundred systems in my life, rofl, possibly in the hundreds - or simply had them die unfairly, like windows does. But I also do a lot of "risky" things, like running multiple installers. I'm just wondering how well Gentoo can handle that.

For example, while I was emerging libreoffice I emerged a few other packages (well, more than just libre office >> ). I was posting about display errors I had, and at first I thought something might have miscompiled. However, I emerged --emptytree world, still had the error, and found it was a driver thing, meaning gentoo must have been handling multiple emerges fine.

I'm not trying to justify what I did.. just curious, haha..

ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

I've done multiple emerges at once and never had an issue, usually what ends up happening is one has to pause and wait for the other to finish, so it can finish installing the package. Now windows, I like to play a game of how many ways I can get a BSoD

BlueFusion · Guru Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 371

I emerge 2 or 3 things at once on occasion. Portage does handle this well unlike scenarios I've had with RPMs in the past back in the early Fedora Core days.

I run Btrfs RAID5 on top of dm-crypt on my daily use desktop and Btrfs single on top of dm-crypt on my laptop. That has it's risks. But, meh. Fortune favors the bold.
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