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novazur
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 Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:27 pm Post subject: webkit-gtk versions |
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Is it a bug ?
webkit-gtk-2.4.7 installed, world doesn't require anything else :
| Code: | # equery l webkit-gtk
* Searching for webkit-gtk ...
[IP-] [ ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.7:3/25 |
| Code: | # emerge -DauN world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Nothing to merge; quitting. |
but :
| Code: | # emerge -p webkit-gtk
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild NS ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r200 [2.4.7] USE="X egl gstreamer introspection jit opengl spell webgl (-aqua) -coverage -debug -geoloc -gles2 -libsecret {-test}" |
why emerge doesn't recompile same version as installed and get a newer ?
Is it a portage bug or something not normal with me ?
Note that this version (2.4.7-r200) was removed by emerge depclean in a precedent update. |
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Ant P.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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depclean removed -r200 because you have no GTK+2 programs that use webkit. The other one is for GTK+3 apps, as the slot 3 indicates. The -r* doesn't mean it's newer.
It won't be installed automatically by emerge, because then you'd waste several hours compiling a webkit library used by nothing. |
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novazur
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Ant P. wrote: | depclean removed -r200 because you have no GTK+2 programs that use webkit. The other one is for GTK+3 apps, as the slot 3 indicates. The -r* doesn't mean it's newer.
It won't be installed automatically by emerge, because then you'd waste several hours compiling a webkit library used by nothing. |
ok, so (I repeat) :
| Code: | # emerge -p webkit-gtk
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild NS ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r200 [2.4.7] USE="X egl gstreamer introspection jit opengl spell webgl (-aqua) -coverage -debug -geoloc -gles2 -libsecret {-test}" |
why emerge doesn't recompile same version as installed and get a newer ? |
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ExecutorElassus
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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related: there is also a version 2.6.4 in the tree, but gnome-extra/zenity, for no reason that I can see from the 3.14 ebuild, does not recognize it, and insists on building 2.4.8 (which, when I run emerge -puD world, now shows as a slot install, which I didn't think webkit-gtk even did). What's up with that?
Cheers,
EE
EDIT:oops, I see that 2.6.4 has a different slot ID in it, and that zenity requires the ID held by 2.4.8. Whelp, I only had zenity for gtk support for winetricks, which I don't need to have, so that all gets purged. huzzah! |
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franzf
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| novazur wrote: | | why emerge doesn't recompile same version as installed and get a newer ? |
Because the slot does not say anything about "newer". And in portage terms 2.4.8-r200 is greater than 2.4.8.
If you want the newest version for your SLOT emerge webkit-gtk:3 |
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novazur
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| franzf wrote: | | Because the slot does not say anything about "newer". And in portage terms 2.4.8-r200 is greater than 2.4.8. |
So, again and again, why emerge world doesn't pull 2.4.8-r200 ?
I am the only one to see that"s a bug in portage ? 
To be more clear :
if emerge webkit-gtk pull a new version, emerge world should pull it too !
OR
if emerge world doesn't pull a version, emerge webkit-gtk should never pull a newer version.
That's not logical at all. |
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charles17
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| novazur wrote: | | So, again and again, why emerge world doesn't pull 2.4.8-r200 ? |
That's exactly the difference between | Quote: | | # emerge --update world |
and | Quote: | | # emerge --update --deep world |
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franzf
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| novazur wrote: | | franzf wrote: | | Because the slot does not say anything about "newer". And in portage terms 2.4.8-r200 is greater than 2.4.8. |
So, again and again, why emerge world doesn't pull 2.4.8-r200 ?
I am the only one to see that"s a bug in portage ? |
webkit-gtk-2.4.8-r200 is configured to build against gtk2. webkit-gtk-2.4.8 builds against gtk3. If you only have installed applications that need webkit-gtk for gtk3 (so they depend on webkit-gtk:3), emerge can see that - and will only look at new webkit-gtk-versions from SLOT 3. That's not a bug but a great feature, because it prevents you from having to install (and compile!) unneeded "dependencies" (dependencies nobody depends on).
webkit-gtk:4 is a different beast - has nothing to do with "gtk4", but changed API + support to install it in parrallel with a webkit-gtk-version that still support webkit1. |
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novazur
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| charles17 wrote: | | novazur wrote: | | So, again and again, why emerge world doesn't pull 2.4.8-r200 ? |
That's exactly the difference between | Quote: | | # emerge --update world |
and | Quote: | | # emerge --update --deep world |
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Read my first post :
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novazur
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| franzf wrote: | | webkit-gtk-2.4.8-r200 is configured to build against gtk2. webkit-gtk-2.4.8 builds against gtk3. If you only have installed applications that need webkit-gtk for gtk3 (so they depend on webkit-gtk:3), emerge can see that - and will only look at new webkit-gtk-versions from SLOT 3. That's not a bug but a great feature, because it prevents you from having to install (and compile!) unneeded "dependencies" (dependencies nobody depends on). |
You don't understand what I write. My english is surely too bad. I don't ask about difference between webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r200 and webkit-gtk-2.4.7
I just repeat my first post. You should understand, that's portage which is speaking :
| Code: | # equery l webkit-gtk
* Searching for webkit-gtk ...
[IP-] [ ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.7:3/25
# emerge -p webkit-gtk
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
[ebuild NS ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r200 [2.4.7] USE="X egl gstreamer introspection jit opengl spell webgl (-aqua) -coverage -debug -geoloc -gles2 -libsecret {-test}"
# emerge -DauN world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Nothing to merge; quitting.
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This can't be a feature. |
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franzf
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And that's exactly what I try to tell you.
Pass an atom to emerge and it will install the most recent version. In this case portage says "2.4.7-r200" is the most recent version so it picks it, regardless of its use (as dependency) in other packages.
If you simply do a world-update or e.g. reemerge epiphany portage just installs what really is needed, and here absolute version numbers aren't important, it's version number of specific slots (if a SLOT is specified in the dependency - webkit-gtk:3 as example) |
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ct85711
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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As franzf just said,
| Quote: | | That's not a bug but a great feature, because it prevents you from having to install (and compile!) unneeded "dependencies" (dependencies nobody depends on). |
Portage is saying that no installed packages need or use net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r200 (which is slot 2) at this time. So unless you installed a package outside of portage (which portage will have no idea about), you don't need that version of the package. Your getting mixed up in that there is 2 or 3 variations of this package using the same name and version, but different revision for different gtk's (gtk2 and gtk3).
When you did the emerge -p webkit-gtk, you told portage to list the newest version of webkit-gtk available. This does not take a look at if anything will use it, only the package version.
The emerge -DauN world on the other hand, asked portage list all packages that have an update available that an installed package could use. This will only list new versions IF any installed package will use it, meaning it won't list new versions if no installed package can use it. |
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novazur
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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So, if I understand well, that's the webkit-gtk versioning which is not good.
webkit-gtk:2 => webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r200
should never be considered as newer than :
webkit-gtk:3 => webkit-gtk-2.4.7
or webkit-gtk-2.4.7 should be called webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r300
but you won't make me think all of this is normal. |
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Ant P.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| If you still disagree, you're more than welcome to spend several hours compiling that "newer" version of webkit-gtk which will never, ever be used by any software... |
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franzf
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| novazur wrote: | | or webkit-gtk-2.4.7 should be called webkit-gtk-2.4.7-r300 |
It was done that way during webkit-gtk-1.*. You can ask Gentoo GNOME Maintainers if you want to know why they dropped that pattern.
(You might also want to look at enlightenment and how upstream thinks that 0.18.8 is "newer" than 1.0.14) |
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houtworm
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:33 am Post subject: |
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ok here is my story
There were 2 versions of webkit-gtk
One version in slot 3 was needed for.. something for winetricks so I removed that webkit-gtk version and remerged winetricks with the -gtk use flag.
Everything looked ok, revdep-rebuild was ok, emerge -upD world did nothing.
But after a while, webkit-gtk was upgraded.
Well. that is what I thougt but the old version was not removed and now I had 2 versions again.
| Code: | # equery l webkit-gtk
* Searching for webkit-gtk ...
[IP-] [ ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.8-r200:2
[IP-] [ ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.6.5:4/37 |
grrrrr
and
| Code: | # equery d webkit-gtk
* These packages depend on webkit-gtk:
media-gfx/gimp-2.8.14 (webkit ? >=net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.6.1:2)
x11-libs/wxGTK-3.0.2.0-r1 (webkit ? net-libs/webkit-gtk:2) |
So I decided to put -webkit in my make.conf and then
| Code: | emerge --newuse --update --deep @world
emerge --depclean |
..but webkit-gtk was not removed
So..
| Code: | | #emerge --depclean =net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.6.5 |
after that
nothing..
Ok great.
But
| Code: | # emerge -upD world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild NS ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.6.5 [2.4.8-r200] USE="egl gstreamer jit opengl spell webgl -coverage -doc -geoloc -introspection -libsecret {-test}" |
That is how the 2nd webkit-gtk was installed! Portage did see it as an update but it was installed in a different slot and not needed for anything.
So..
| Code: | #emerge --depclean =net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.8-r200
# revdep-rebuild -p
[...]
* Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done.
# emerge -upD world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done! |
and finally all is fine.
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