emerge fails because of gnome-extra/gtkhtml-4.8.3

mr.knight · n00b Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Posts: 11

Hi Gentooer,

I try to update a few outdated computers and have a problem which I tried the whole last week and can't solve it. Hopefully some masters here could give me a hint.

emerge was terminated with the error:

gseba · n00b Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Romania

Both sys-fs/udev and sys-apps/systemd cannot be installed at the same time.

Unless you have switched to systemd by mistake, here is what I suggest. Otherwise, you really have messed things up.

See http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd: "sys-apps/systemd contains udev and, then, you can safely let sys-fs/udev..."

If you could login in one text terminal (tty), then you may try to safely "emerge --unmerge" some rogue dependencies until you succeed to emerge @system @world first time, then gradually attempt to emerge other "@world" packages (--noreplace).
Portage will give you strong warnings not to uninstall "@system" packages: be very careful with either sys-fs/udev or sys-apps/systemd.
Also, you may try prefixing all emerge commands with, e.g., "USE='-gtk3 -examples' emerge ...", and first succeed with USE flags disabled and then try gradually enabling them. Add "--keep-going" instead of placing a brick on the return key

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You probably need kernel recompiled, so make sure that everything will work: load, boot, initramfs, systemd...

s.

mr.knight · n00b Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Posts: 11

i92guboj · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:51 pm Post subject:

In which regards gtkhtml, try "emerge -1 =gtkhtml-3.32.2", which should build fine with gtk+-2.

That won't magically solve the rest of issues though. The problem is that currently gnome2 is being masked so the chance is that your packages will push gtk+3 nonetheless, unless you take due actions which basically consist of masking gnome3 packages, copying gnome/gtk2 packages to your local overlay and unmasking those. gnome2 keyring has been unmergeable for ages (before being masked). But ask about that if you want to use 2.x and hit that.

mr.knight · n00b Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Posts: 11

i92guboj · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:47 pm Post subject:

If you don't want systemd and don't want gtk+3/gnome3, then do this:

add ">=gnome-base/gconf-3" and ">=x11-libs/gtk+-3" to /etc/portage/package.mask
add "<gnome-base/gconf-3" to /etc/portage/package.unmask and also to /etc/portage/package.keywords just in case

If those directories/files do not exist, just create them.

Try again, there will probably e more blockers that you will need to mask/unmask. As again when that happens and I'll try to do my best.

If you don't want to bother will all of this you have two options: follow the crowd and migrate to systemd (there0s a guide somewhere for that) OR stop using your current gtk software and look for alternatives with saner dependencies.

:roll:

Edited: whilte you are at it, also add ">=gnome-extra/gtkhtml-4" to package.mask.

mr.knight · n00b Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Posts: 11

gseba · n00b Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Romania

You may "emerge --unmerge systemd", don't worry... Keep your system powered on.
Follow the hints from i92guboj [package.mask/package.unmask approach is a good idea.]

One can (almost) always "emerge --unmerge <whatever is blocking and is blocked>", add extra restraints "USE=-hwdb -gudev" and of course version masking as mentioned saves build time. Making backup of package's files is also a smart move.

Take some steps but do not uninstall sys-fs/udev (except rebuild with missing flag s.)

i92guboj · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject:

Well. First question first.

Do you want to migrate to systemd? Until you set that clear this is only going to be a mess of contradictory tips... just like the emerge output. Answer that and then we can take one path to the last consequence.

mr.knight · n00b Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Posts: 11

Yes of course I will systemd. Other similar systems have both systemd and openrc. Otherwise I want to have gnome3x so systemd is necessary, right ?

gseba, I don't have systemd in the problematic system yet. Emerge just want to install systemd and keep sys-fs/udev when I try to emerge gtk+. That's the problem I don't know how to solve. Btw I can't unmerge sys-fs/udev because the dependency.

i92guboj · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject:

gseba · n00b Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Romania

mr.knight · n00b Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Posts: 11

Hi,

Many thanks to gseba and i92guboj for answering my noobs questions. After spending a lot of time reading and trying, I was able to full emerge my second system to the newest stand.
I need to emerge -C sys-fs/udev and virtual/udev, then emerge -1av gtk+.
After that the problem with gnome-extra/gtkhtml fixed.
I did perform a @revdep-rebuilt and then, happy to restart.
But I got somehow another bigger problem:
1. The system started, then waiting forever at

i92guboj · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:14 pm Post subject:

You really should not remove the device handler from the sysinit runlevel unless you know what you are doing (that is, unless you are willing to maintain your /dev fs by hand or using some other thing such as mdev).

In your system, no udev means no /dev (mostly). So, add it back. If the system is hanging at udev then you need to sort that out, properly. You can't avoid it, unless you are willing to substitute it with eudev or some other thing (if you use systemd then you can't do that at all).

mr.knight · n00b Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Posts: 11

i92guboj · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject:

Well, if you don't have a device handler of any kind then you won't be able to use most devices, which is what you are experiencing.

I have seen people having the problem you describe in this forum, but they fixed it by changing to eudev, which is basically a working udev fork which rips out the systemd related stuff.

As said, if you use systemd then that's not a valid solution for you.

I suggest that you search this forum for that message: "waiting for uevents". I am sure you will get a fair amount of results, and surely some hints on how to fix it. If not, I suggest you start a new thread since I can't really help with that problem and here it won't take much visibility.

gseba · n00b Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Romania

Leio · Developer Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Estonia

How did we get from a simple compile error from a missing gtk+ header to switching init systems...?
What gtk+-3 version did you have?
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Leio · Developer Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Estonia

ah, ancient 3.4.4 or something; filing a bug would be appropriate that tells that gtkhtml needs the gtk-a11y.h header, but that isn't apparently present yet in 3.4.4, while the dependency in the ebuild (and probably upstream configure.ac) is only gtk+-3.2
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