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rgmf n00b
Joined: 09 Jan 2014 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:47 am Post subject: I can not install epdfview and xpdf. |
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Hello everybody,
when I try to install epdfview or xpdf with emerge epdfview or emerge xpdf I cannot because they are not exists ¿?
I am very newbie in Gentoo and I do not know what is happening.
Thanks. |
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SirRobin2318 Apprentice
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 241 Location: Strasbourg, france.
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:53 am Post subject: |
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If I recall correctly, it is unmaintained and deprecated.
Use okular (if you like qt & kde) or evince (for gnome/gtk) instead. |
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rgmf n00b
Joined: 09 Jan 2014 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:57 am Post subject: |
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SirRobin2318 wrote: | If I recall correctly, it is unmaintained and deprecated.
Use okular (if you like qt & kde) or evince (for gnome/gtk) instead. |
Do you know if there are PDF viewer not KDE and GNOME depended? I use xfce and I would like to install apps not KDE and GNOME depended. Thanks. |
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SirRobin2318 Apprentice
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 241 Location: Strasbourg, france.
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:08 am Post subject: |
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They're not dependent on the whole desktops, they shouldn't have many dependencies.
On my system, evince pulls in 4 dependencies, none of which are heavy gnome desktop things (I don't have gnome).
I don't know for okular because I've already got kde installed.
Just check with emerge -a and see how many dependencies they pull in. |
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potuz Guru
Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Posts: 378
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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rgmf wrote: | SirRobin2318 wrote: | If I recall correctly, it is unmaintained and deprecated.
Use okular (if you like qt & kde) or evince (for gnome/gtk) instead. |
Do you know if there are PDF viewer not KDE and GNOME depended? I use xfce and I would like to install apps not KDE and GNOME depended. Thanks. |
try mupdf, it's very light and it wont try to pull lots of stuff from GNOME like evince. |
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steveL Watchman
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 5153 Location: The Peanut Gallery
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm nice one potuz. Pretty small dep list. What does it use javascript for? v8 is not a dep in 1.2 ebuild, and not made it to 9999 so far. Hopefully it'll be an option. |
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Hu Moderator
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 21631
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:54 am Post subject: |
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I like qpdfview. It requires Qt, but does not pull in major KDE components. It is quick to start and has more features than mupdf. |
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potuz Guru
Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Posts: 378
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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steveL wrote: | Hmm nice one potuz. Pretty small dep list. What does it use javascript for? v8 is not a dep in 1.2 ebuild, and not made it to 9999 so far. Hopefully it'll be an option. |
Javascript is for form filing for example. MuJS is the default insterpreter as of v1.4 and v8/JavascriptCore are compile-time options. |
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Anon-E-moose Watchman
Joined: 23 May 2008 Posts: 6098 Location: Dallas area
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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zathura is also relatively light weight and doesn't depend on gnome or kde. It doesn use gtk though. _________________ PRIME x570-pro, 3700x, 6.1 zen kernel
gcc 13, profile 17.0 (custom bare multilib), openrc, wayland |
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jimmij Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 139
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:28 am Post subject: |
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rgmf wrote: | SirRobin2318 wrote: | If I recall correctly, it is unmaintained and deprecated.
Use okular (if you like qt & kde) or evince (for gnome/gtk) instead. |
Do you know if there are PDF viewer not KDE and GNOME depended? I use xfce and I would like to install apps not KDE and GNOME depended. Thanks. |
When xpdf was removed from portage (~2 years ago) I've tried many pdf viewers, including mentioned above evince, mupdf, zathura etc, but nothing can match xpdf imho, so finally I just downloaded precompiled version of xpdf from official site (http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/download.html). With a little efford you can create a simple ebuild if you don't like to install anything outside portage. _________________ Vanitas vanitatum et omnia vanitas.
Libera temet ex inferis. |
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mv Watchman
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 6747
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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jimmij wrote: | When xpdf was removed from portage (~2 years ago) |
Yes, it is really a shame that this happened.
I agree that bundled libs should be avoided, and I can completely understand that unbundling is too much work for the gentoo developers. However, if bundled libs are used as an argument to remove a well-functioning package something is going wrong with gentoo.
The same happened e.g. with biber: It took several years until sufficiently many volunteers have eventually finished the work of unbundling. That many years, gentoo was the only distribution without a crucial program of the texlive installation. |
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Hu Moderator
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 21631
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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If I recall correctly, xpdf was removed because there were unresolved security problems that could be triggered by reading a malicious PDF. I agree it would have been nice to have those patched rather than remove the package, but I understand the rationale for removing a known-vulnerable package that has no fixes available. |
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mv Watchman
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 6747
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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IIRC, xpdf-3.03 has fixed these security problems 2.5 years ago. The real cause is that gentoo maintainers decided that unbundling the libs for the new release is too much work and refused to upgrade to a version with bundled libs. |
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Slippery Jim Apprentice
Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 264
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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There's also ghostview (app-text/gv). It's lightweight, and it will render pdf files, but doesn't do hyperlinks or other fancy stuff like that. |
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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If you use Firefox, that has a built-in PDF viewer too. Obviously it doesn't make sense to install it just for that, but it's another option. |
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mv Watchman
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 6747
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Ant P. wrote: | If you use Firefox, that has a built-in PDF viewer too |
I don't think so. What you see is probably just the firefox plugin of acroread. |
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VoidMage Watchman
Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 6196
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:44 am Post subject: |
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mv wrote: | Ant P. wrote: | If you use Firefox, that has a built-in PDF viewer too |
I don't think so. What you see is probably just the firefox plugin of acroread. |
No, what they see is PDF.js, but that gadget tends to fail on more complex files (or run out of memory). |
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