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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:24 am    Post subject: Obama's pathetic State of the Union speech Reply with quote

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Good Speech, Modest Agenda, Diminished Leader
Americans may have already tuned out Barack Obama.

Is that all there is?

In what may be his last, best chance to revive a presidency that has fallen far short of its promise, Barack Obama unveiled his 2014 agenda Tuesday night: small-bore executive orders, studies, summits, and legislation, long-seasoned and stalled. "America does not stand still," he said, "and neither will I."

He focused on the era's seminal issue, loss of social mobility and income equality in a post-industrial, global economy. "The cold, hard fact is that even in the midst of recovery, too many Americans are working more than ever just to get by—let alone get ahead," Obama said to a joint session of Congress attending his annual State of the Union address.



Another cold, hard fact: Obama may not have the skill, the will, or the time to do much about it.

It was a good speech about a modest agenda delivered by a diminished leader, a man who famously promised to reject the politics of "small things" and aim big—to change the culture of Washington, to restore the public's faith in government, and to tackle enduring national problems with bold solutions. The night he sealed the Democratic nomination in 2008, candidate Obama looked forward to a day when future generations might say "this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."

Tuesday night was no such moment.

It was, instead, a moment in miniature: an executive order to raise the minimum wage for future federal contractors, and another to create "starter" retirement accounts; summits on long-term unemployment and working families; and scores of promises to "continue" existing administration programs.

"What I offer tonight," he said, "is a set of concrete, practical proposals." Oh, such a far cry from "an audacity to hope."

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Last year, Obama struggled through a series of controversies that raised questions about his competence and credibility, followed by the inexplicably poor launch of his signature health insurance program.

According to a new NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll, Obama's approval rating is an anemic 43 percent. Just 40 percent of Americans say they are either "optimistic and confident" or "satisfied and hopeful" about Obama's remaining time in office, versus 59 percent who are either "uncertain and wondering" or "pessimistic and worried."

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll showed that 63 percent of the public has no confidence in Obama to make the right decisions for the country's future. The country is evenly divided over whether he is honest, a big drop from pre-2013 levels, while 52 percent said he does not "understand the problems of people like you."

A majority of Americans say their president is a weak leader.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/state-of-the-union-2014/good-speech-modest-agenda-diminished-leader-20140128
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, one thing he talked a lot about was income inequality. (He's good at talking.) Guess which President, from Reagan through Obama (inclusive), has reduced income inequality the most and raised incomes of the lowest-earning Americans the most?

Go on... take a guess.

Then see if you were right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The real State of the Union is here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't watch the SotU.

I am already well aware of the sorry state we are in.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
see if you were right.
No Obama numbers to compare. :(
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your Führer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is a sou address?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what is a sou address?
Worthless, regardless of the individual giving it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what is a sou address?

State of the Union Address. The address fulfills rules in Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, requiring the President to give Congress information on the "State of the Union" and recommend any measures that he believes is in the nation's interest.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if he is facing a congress that will do anything to oppose him... What can he do ( congress/republican are even going back on their commitment from 2010 to make jobs) point being both sides are shit and a 2party system isn't giving the ppl much choice for change
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More often than not, our presidents have had one or both houses of Congress hostile to their agenda. It's quite common, in fact. If you can't create consensus solutions, and you insist on trying to push an agenda that is unacceptable to half the country, then you're not going to get anything done. There's nothing wrong with that; that's as it should be.

Clinton was a grown-up about this and was able to get some things done. Obama is not. He has consumed too much of his own Kool Aid, and he'd rather create gridlock and then try to blame somebody else for it than get something accomplished. If he can't have it his way, he breaks the toy and cries.

The sad thing is that naïve and ignorant people listened to his rainbows and unicorns and actually believed it. I said back then there was no way he could do the things he was promising, and people said, "I am willing to give him a chance." They are as much to blame for electing this man as he is for being incapable of good leadership. And, if you're thinking it's somebody's fault other than his or the people who elected him, then you're still not awake.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:
But if he is facing a congress that will do anything to oppose him... What can he do ( congress/republican are even going back on their commitment from 2010 to make jobs) point being both sides are shit and a 2party system isn't giving the ppl much choice for change
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More often than not, our presidents have had one or both houses of Congress hostile to their agenda. It's quite common, in fact. If you can't create consensus solutions, and you insist on trying to push an agenda that is unacceptable to half the country, then you're not going to get anything done. There's nothing wrong with that; that's as it should be.
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It is called compromise. Something Obama said he refuses to do.

Democrats will scream bloody, baby killing murder if a Republican President does the same thing with a similar congress.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, we call your country a bipartisan oligarchy. :P
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