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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Gentoo unstable by distrowatch - how to get it? Reply with quote

Hi,

I need distro with the most updated packages. What I see on distrowatch.com about gentoo http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gentoo is ok for me - and I have some previous experiences with Gentoo. However I have impression that what is 'current' in Gentoo repos states for 'stable' in distrowatch. How to find 'unstable' one? Which flag I should change? Just
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
I use it myself since about a year and a half.
But be prepared for occasional problems.
Unless you know portage inside out don't do it.
Install "mc" to browse and edit relevant files.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Gentoo unstable by distrowatch - how to get it? Reply with quote

Marcinnnn wrote:
I need distro with the most updated packages.

Why?

Probably Arch, if you are happy with such bleeding-edges ;)

Examples: giflib 5, libmng 2, libpng 1.6, gnutls 3.2.4
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why take notice of what distrowatch says?
and gentoo is as stable as you want it to be.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcinnnn,

The portage tree contains stable, testing, and a few "its so new, its not keyworded yet" packages.
There are also "live" ebuilds for some packages which download directly from the development repository.

To add to all that there are other repositories too.

Just how broken do your want your Linux to be?
You choose - Gentoo provides the tools to do it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Global ~arch is a bad idea, install stable first and install applications which are in ~arch, for me this is one of the best features of Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snkmoorthy wrote:
Global ~arch is a bad idea, install stable first and install applications which are in ~arch, for me this is one of the best features of Gentoo.

global ~arch isn't necessarily a bad idea *IF* you are willing to manage the occasional breakage
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in ~arch since the beginning and ~arch is really stable for at least 6 years.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:

Just how broken do your want your Linux to be?
You choose - Gentoo provides the tools to do it.

Excellent, now where do I submit for official Gentoo slogans to? :lol:


XavierMiller wrote:
I'm in ~arch since the beginning and ~arch is really stable for at least 6 years.

Same here, although not quite as long.

I imagine going full arch or ~arch would give the best results and that mixing the two (especially pulling whole DE's into stable for example) would be a much more of a chance for potential headaches.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rorgoroth wrote:
submit for official Gentoo slogans

How about: Gentoo - you get to keep the pieces
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Gentoo unstable by distrowatch - how to get it? Reply with quote

PaulBredbury wrote:
[...] libmng 2, [...]

Wow, seeing that get a new major version in the last month is a bit surprising. The changelog isn't all that impressive though.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rorgoroth,

We have a fortune-mod cookie collection somewhere.
Its not been updated in a long time.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rorgoroth wrote:

XavierMiller wrote:
I'm in ~arch since the beginning and ~arch is really stable for at least 6 years.

Same here, although not quite as long.

Same here, using ~arch since 2004. It was really stable for all those years. The only catch is you compile more with ~arch, that is done while you are sleeping. But that made me feel like genious, at the beginning. I still like to watch that compiler output :)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Team,

I've used ~arch everywhere since 2002. Thats ~x86, ~amd64, ~sparc, ~arm and even a little ~ppc64.
From time to time it can bite you in the bum. expat and modular xorg both come to mind.

However, it can can all be managed. Don't update when your box must work ... because now and again it might not.
Set FEATURES="buildpkg". This is no immediate help but it saves a binary of everything you emerge, so after a few months, its your 'get out of jail free' card, since you can downgrade with emerge -K=<package>/<version> without rebuilding anything.
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