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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:13 am    Post subject: Britain finally has politicians with brains and balls Reply with quote

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British MPs have rejected possible UK military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government to deter the use of chemical weapons.

A government motion was defeated by 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes.

PM David Cameron said "the government will act accordingly", effectively ruling out London's involvement in any US-led strikes against Damascus.

The US said it would "continue to consult" with London, "one of our closest allies and friends".

"President Obama's decision-making will be guided by what is in the best interests of the United States," a White House statement said.

It added that Mr Obama "believes that there are core interests at stake for the United States and that countries who violate international norms regarding chemical weapons need to be held accountable".

Obama administration officials on Thursday told a group of US lawmakers in a conference call that "it is beyond a doubt that chemical weapons were used, and used intentionally by the Assad regime," said Eliot Engel, the senior Democratic member on the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783#"
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 285 to be in favor of the use of chemical weapons.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 285 to be in favor of the use of chemical weapons.

Funny. But some will take that seriously. :P
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup they have learnt from the spin from the last farce... Iraq capable of hitting uk interests with WMD within 45min WHILE weapon inspectors raising doubt about their existence is something that won't be forgot.

If Chem weapons are confirmed to have been used and it is shown beyond reasonable doubt that it was from Assad gov'n then I would expect another vote as long as very specific scope is detailed
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yup they have learnt from the spin from the last farce... Iraq capable of hitting uk interests with WMD within 45min WHILE weapon inspectors raising doubt about their existence is something that won't be forgot.

If Chem weapons are confirmed to have been used and it is shown beyond reasonable doubt that it was from Assad gov'n then I would expect another vote as long as very specific scope is detailed
No, fuck 'em. Even if they prove it it's none of our business. If some other stupid country wants to that's fine but why waste British soldiers and money?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree. If it is shown then their capability to launch chrm attack needs to be stopped.
Leave their civil war to themselves. Cruise missile sites on chem sites and that it. Both sides are as bad as each other but that doesn't warrant chem attack on ur own ppl

No British infantrymen on the ground though. Typhoon shadow launch
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's ok, the CESM are going to do it this time. Vive la Français!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watching media spin gain traction and forming public opinion was always interesting. :lol:
Can one place bets somewhere on how long time it will take for certain spins to reach critical mass and swing public opinion?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Watching media spin gain traction and forming public opinion was always interesting. :lol:
Can one place bets somewhere on how long time it will take for certain spins to reach critical mass and swing public opinion?
I'm waiting for the morons in charge of the oval orifice to ask our special forces to help out. It's normally just after the entire thing has gone pear shaped, so any day now.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the pimp just picks another bitch from his general house?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 285 to be in favor of the use of chemical weapons.

Funny. But some will take that seriously. :P
That's good, as I intended it to be funny and serious. By voting that way, they are in fact condoning use of chemical weapons.

As for the US, I don't think we have enough interest to justify more money in the region. I'd offer "If you want us to do something, write some very large checks, then we'll carpet bomb the place."
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I disagree. If it is shown then their capability to launch chrm attack needs to be stopped.
Leave their civil war to themselves. Cruise missile sites on chem sites and that it. Both sides are as bad as each other but that doesn't warrant chem attack on ur own ppl

No British infantrymen on the ground though. Typhoon shadow launch
that is an OPP not MP
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 285 to be in favor of the use of chemical weapons.


who is using those weapons?

and why are the USA so keen on replacing a secular government with shariah enforcing al'qaeda supporters?

Aren't Lybia, Iraq and Egypt bad examples enough?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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who is using those weapons?
My money is on the rebels (less likely) or an interested 3rd party (more likely). There would seem to be little or no gain for the outgoing regime to use them, unless it was a spiteful fait accompli acknowledgement.

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and why are the USA so keen on replacing a secular government with shariah enforcing al'qaeda supporters?
Obama is tight with his homies. He wants to stabilize the region.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pjp wrote:
Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 285 to be in favor of the use of chemical weapons.


who is using those weapons?

and why are the USA so keen on replacing a secular government with shariah enforcing al'qaeda supporters?

Aren't Lybia, Iraq and Egypt bad examples enough?

Because it's a convenient distraction from our government's mass violation of the entire population's civil rights, other ethical scandals the White House has been unable to shake, and Obama's complete failure in terms of foreign policy, defense, and economics.

The ObamaMedia have been playing along with thus propaganda that "there's no doubt" who employed chemical weapons, and trying to make it seem like there is little public skepticism, but so far, I think they are failing to sway public opinion. I think Obama has lost the trust of the American people, as the result of thus series of ethical scandals. I think most people aren't buying it.

However, I don't think our legislature will stop him. The Democrats (who run the Senate, which is really the only body in a position to blow the whistle on something like this) won't do anything, because they don't want to embarrass ir further damage the credibility of their own party. The Republicans in Congress only hold a slim majority, and don't have votes to do anything, once you subtract those who believe that, regardless of whether Obama is lying, getting involved is the right thing to do.

However, like I said before, watch for the UN inspectors to possibly be conned by the CIA into saying exactly what Obama wants them to say.

Also, since this is now his second term, shouldn't you Eurofappers be giving him another Nobel Peace Prize?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

America can do what they want. If they lose lives because of it it's their fault.

I want nothing to do with it
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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America can do what they want. If they lose lives because of it it's their fault.

I want nothing to do with it
You wouldn't have anything to do with it anyway would you? Unless you mean you are now going to be quiet about it. Show those arrogent Americans the power of the silent treatment :P That only works if you are female and married, so are you going to marry the US? Are you female?
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pjp wrote:
Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 285 to be in favor of the use of chemical weapons.


who is using those weapons?

and why are the USA so keen on replacing a secular government with shariah enforcing al'qaeda supporters?

Aren't Lybia, Iraq and Egypt bad examples enough?


The CIA arming Islamic militants? What could possibly go wrong? :roll:
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energyman76b wrote:
pjp wrote:
Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 285 to be in favor of the use of chemical weapons.


who is using those weapons?

and why are the USA so keen on replacing a secular government with shariah enforcing al'qaeda supporters?

Aren't Lybia, Iraq and Egypt bad examples enough?

Because it's a convenient distraction from our government's mass violation of the entire population's civil rights, other ethical scandals the White House has been unable to shake, and Obama's complete failure in terms of foreign policy, defense, and economics.

The ObamaMedia have been playing along with thus propaganda that "there's no doubt" who employed chemical weapons, and trying to make it seem like there is little public skepticism, but so far, I think they are failing to sway public opinion. I think Obama has lost the trust of the American people, as the result of thus series of ethical scandals. I think most people aren't buying it.

However, I don't think our legislature will stop him. The Democrats (who run the Senate, which is really the only body in a position to blow the whistle on something like this) won't do anything, because they don't want to embarrass ir further damage the credibility of their own party. The Republicans in Congress only hold a slim majority, and don't have votes to do anything, once you subtract those who believe that, regardless of whether Obama is lying, getting involved is the right thing to do.

However, like I said before, watch for the UN inspectors to possibly be conned by the CIA into saying exactly what Obama wants them to say.

Also, since this is now his second term, shouldn't you Eurofappers be giving him another Nobel Peace Prize?


Many rumors of false flag in the dark corners of the Internet...wouldn't be the first time a Democratic President launched a military strike as a distraction. Just kidding, I love my government.
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pjp wrote:
Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 285 to be in favor of the use of chemical weapons.


who is using those weapons?

and why are the USA so keen on replacing a secular government with shariah enforcing al'qaeda supporters?

Aren't Lybia, Iraq and Egypt bad examples enough?


The CIA arming Islamic militants again? What could possibly go wrong? :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK pols did the right thing. Now it's just choco-Jesus, the Nobel Peace Prize laureate, standing there, with his dick in his hand, looking like the idiot he really is from trying to attack a country where we have no business attacking. Between 7 and 9% of Americans support attacking Syria. It's a stupid, stupid, and dare I say stupid thing to do.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I disagree. If it is shown then their capability to launch chrm attack needs to be stopped.


We should stay completely and utterly out at all costs. This is an internal matter and needs to be resolved by the Syrian people.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Naib wrote:
Yup they have learnt from the spin from the last farce... Iraq capable of hitting uk interests with WMD within 45min WHILE weapon inspectors raising doubt about their existence is something that won't be forgot.

If Chem weapons are confirmed to have been used and it is shown beyond reasonable doubt that it was from Assad gov'n then I would expect another vote as long as very specific scope is detailed
No, fuck 'em. Even if they prove it it's none of our business. If some other stupid country wants to that's fine but why waste British soldiers and money?

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If any of us get involved, it will just be to the advantage of al Qaida.
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No, fuck 'em. Even if they prove it it's none of our business. If some other stupid country wants to that's fine but why waste British soldiers and money?

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If any of us get involved, it will just be to the advantage of al Qaida.


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the problem needs to be solved at its root! Bomb Saudi Arabia!
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