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How old are you?
under 15
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
15-19
2%
 2%  [ 4 ]
20-24
10%
 10%  [ 14 ]
25-29
19%
 19%  [ 26 ]
30-34
18%
 18%  [ 25 ]
35-39
14%
 14%  [ 19 ]
40-49
16%
 16%  [ 22 ]
50-59
11%
 11%  [ 15 ]
60-69
6%
 6%  [ 9 ]
Let me tell you about the War..
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerard82 wrote:
If you must know I'm 86.

I always suspected you were cheating with you pseudo ! :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

puh guys I'm really appeased that I belong to the younger group (25 - 29). often I feel pretty old, especially when I see teenagers. Then I think: fuck, yesterday I was 16 and skipped school and suddenly I'm nearly 30 years old! :lol:

on the other hand it's a bit strange that there are not more younger people. If I had known that gentoo existed 10 years ago I'd use it since then.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@gerard82, that's outstanding--from early teens onward, I'm always pleasantly surprised hearing about examples like you. :) I could not even get my grandparents to touch a computer for the most part. I managed to get my Mom switched to using Gentoo last year, which, while surprising to me, definitely showed how amenable many are not to being forced into the Windows Vista/7/8 way of things if they're used to anything prior.
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I'm not into marketing, in fact this is one of the few times I'd mark my age (40+). But this curve seems a good indicator so far. *nix in general had wax and wane phases that coincided with everything changing in industry, marketing and trends. 2003 (which matches a particular age grouping in the poll) was in particular a substantial year for Linux, both positive and negative as were 1995, 1997 and 2000. The overall effect became a spotlight effect over time. Apple, Android, etc., *nix is driving more of what lay people use, but they do not care/want to know the details. As long as there still is a fair amount (meaning any) of 20+ somethings showing any interest in Gentoo, it should continue to evolve.

So, in reality, you're always going to have a few who conceivably like to be able to do whatever they wish and desire to know more about the nuts and bolts of how that machine will work, particularly students in the computer science realm (heh, when they find time). But even there, going the *nix route continues to go against the majority trend (think about how many mainstream distros focus as a perk being non-use of CLI), going the Gentoo route seems even more fringe. The rest will want things to be made simpler and less thought out for them beyond use for consuming, communicating, aesthetics and entertainment.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmpogo wrote:
gerard82 wrote:
Prenj what's wrong with "Let me tell you about the War"?
I can and that's what I clicked.
If you must know I'm 86.

Gerard.


Jokes aside, Prenj, if I read correctly, is from Bosnia and Herzegovina .... I think he can tell about the war as well :(


The only thing I know is... phew
This was the time I just left them and they were looking for poeple going down there, while I had some good jugoslavian friends in Germany...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The graphs look like the Constrictive population pyramid, typical for the western world. That's where most Gentoo devs live too. Maybe it's also showing an initial stage of learning/getting interested, and later a decline of interest (in Gentoo? or just visiting the forums?).

Gentoo community poll:
Code:
Age categories of 10
--------------------

70-
                    1%    1
60-69  ##
       ##           7%    8
50-59  ###
       ####        12%   15
40-49  #####
       ######      18%   22
30-39  #########
       ##########  32%   39
20-29  #########
       #########   29%   36
  -19  #            2%    2
                        ___
total                   123


Age categories of 5
-------------------

70-                    1%    1
65-69  ##              3%    4
60-64  ##              3%    4
55-59  ###             6%    7
50-54  ####            7%    8
45-49  #####           9%   11
40-44  #####           9%   11
35-39  ########       14%   17
30-34  ###########    18%   22
25-29  #############  21%   26
20-24  #####           8%   10
15-19  #               2%    2
  -14                  0%    0
                           ___
total                      123


Updated: number of votes.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmpogo wrote:
gerard82 wrote:
Prenj what's wrong with "Let me tell you about the War"?
I can and that's what I clicked.
If you must know I'm 86.

Gerard.


Jokes aside, Prenj, if I read correctly, is from Bosnia and Herzegovina .... I think he can tell about the war as well :(

Just joking, I'm over it (well more or less) :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
poll wrote:
20-25 [ 1 ]
25-30 [ 2 ]
30-35[ 5 ]
35-40 [ 1 ]
40-50 [ 2 ]
50-60 [ 5 ]
Ok, I have to ask for a recount. This election looks rigged. :lol:


Quote:
15-19 [ 1 ]
20-24 [ 5 ]
25-29 [ 10 ]
30-34 [ 13 ]
35-39 [ 10 ]
40-49 [ 13 ]
50-59 [ 10 ]
60-69 [ 5 ]
Let me tell you about the War.. [ 1 ]


Definitely looks that way: 1 5 10 13 10 13 10 5 1
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
This should be fun. I bet on people discovering Gentoo in college and sticking with it.


Gentoo was not available when I was at University.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh,

Unix was not invented when I was at Uni.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Heh,
Unix was not invented when I was at Uni.

NeddySeagoon: Greenslade, tell the forumers what OS we have in store for them toni...
Greenslade: (Interjecting) Rubbish.
NeddySeagoon: That's right. Yes, it's rubbish!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aCOSwt,

Thats a wee gem.

Come to think of it, when I learned to program, there wasn't an operating system.
Just, your program, a few useful libraries to (statically) link against and the bare hardware all to yourself.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Linux for Workgroups" 3.11-rc1 release today.
We avidly waited 20 years for this to happen :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulenrich wrote:
"Linux for Workgroups" 3.11-rc1 release today.
We avidly waited 20 years for this to happen :)

Funny, just two or three weeks ago I was talking with people at work about the Linux release cycle and how we ought to expect the full release of version 3.11 around the first of September. It was then I made a quip about Linux for Workgroups. I got a bunch of groans. Good old Linus--he had the same sense of humor.

I guess all we need now for that version is set up a new startup tune: TADA.WAV. I used to hear that when I'd start a Windows program in OS/2.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed the poll. Anyway I don't think Gentoo wasn't available when I started running Linux and that was when I was at college. Linux was still somewhat new then (0.99pl12 - but that means there were several zillion versions before that). So I think that dates me enough...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eccerr0r wrote:
I missed the poll.

Did it close? Strange, I didn't put a time-limit on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not closed. Maybe eccerr0r forgot he voted. :P

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. not sure what happened there, but very weird. Anyway, I guess I add another one to the hump...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 60 years old, and apparently a rather atypical Gentoo user. I started with computing on a Z80 CP/M system, back in the days when your only interface to the computer was the command prompt.

In the Nineties, I used to buy a British computer mag called "PC World" or something like that. One of the better columnists was Martin Banks, and I fondly remember one article about "King Computasarfun". I can't find a working link to the article on the net, but here's an intriguing snippet:

... that emporium were in town to tell us what they had done `now'. This turned out to be, amongst other things, the final nail in the coffin of King Computasarfun. You remember him, of course, he was the one that had us all buying computers for splendidly hedonistic reasons, such as playing Space Invaders ...

I've always been of the opinion that computing should be fun, and found Windows more and more boring for each successive version, from 3.0, when you still could play around "under the hood", via 95 and to NT 4.0 and 2000. By the time XP came around, I was totally fed up with Microsoft. I tried several Linux distros, but when I found Gentoo, it felt like coming home. Computing started to be fun again.

Addendum: At the time that I went to high school, Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie were inventing Unix.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do have to admit that Linux kernel also has been appeasing the masses, configuration has gotten simpler and more forgiving to problems, but then again, the plug and play mentality is what necessitates it. That bluetooth bug where you can crash your system by suddenly ripping up the connection made me appreciate how complicated things have gotten.

(... and I would have thought it should have been much simpler than what it is...)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have grown up with Gentoo, in a way. When I first heard about linux at the age of 14 or so I browsed the internet trying to figure out which flavor to install. I saw a description of Gentoo and how it strove for strong community, user freedom and configurability and those ideals really resonated with me. Then I went and tried to install it and failed miserably... I left with my tail between my legs and installed Fedora. I graduated from Fedora to Debian upon a friend's suggestion.

A couple years after my first attempt I figured I'd give Gentoo another shot. This time I got it installed successfully. I've been using it as my primary distro ever since (I am now a recent grad from college).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have no idea what it would be like if Gentoo was my first Linux/Unix install, even worse if it was my first -any- OS install (based on the fact computers come with OS from the store, typically.) Getting your feet wet immensely helps getting a working Gentoo install quickly.

I think there was another poll/thread about maintenance times, as you get older you don't want to be fscking with blockers...?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drasica,

There are no known examples of failed Gentoo installs, mostly because its really hard to mess it up so badly that the only option is to start again.
There are however, varying degrees of success.

You learn far more from fixing things that are not quire right than from following the handbook and it just working.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 16th birthday was two weeks ago.

I've been using Linux for about... 5 years, and using Gentoo for one year or so.
Indeed I feel very young reading the comments, I thought we had more teenagers over here.
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