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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: today updated want to replace udev with systemd Reply with quote

Code:
emerge -uDavN world


Code:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U  ] sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.2.1 [0.1.5-r1] 134 kB
[ebuild   R    ] dev-ruby/rubygems-2.0.3  USE="-server {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20 -jruby -ruby18*" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] dev-ruby/rake-0.9.6  USE="-doc {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20 -jruby -ruby18*" 0 kB
[ebuild  N     ] sys-apps/systemd-205  USE="acl filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection keymap kmod lzma pam policykit tcpd -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -openrc -python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 kB
[uninstall     ] sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3
[blocks b      ] >=sys-apps/systemd-197 (">=sys-apps/systemd-197" is blocking sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3)
[blocks b      ] sys-auth/nss-myhostname ("sys-auth/nss-myhostname" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-205)
[uninstall     ] sys-fs/udev-205  USE="acl firmware-loader gudev hwdb introspection keymap kmod openrc -doc (-selinux) -static-libs"
[blocks b      ] sys-fs/udev ("sys-fs/udev" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-205)
[uninstall     ] app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1  USE="-systemd"
[blocks b      ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking sys-fs/udev-205, app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1)
[ebuild   R    ] sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r2  USE="consolekit cracklib gnome-keyring sha512 systemd* -debug -minimal -mktemp -pam_krb5 -pam_ssh -passwdqc (-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild     U #] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.3-r1 [3.8.3] USE="colord cups i18n policykit short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-packagekit) -smartcard {-test}" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 5 kB
[ebuild     U #] gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1 [3.8.0] USE="fallback gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd -accessibility -audit -debug -fprint -plymouth (-selinux) -smartcard {-test} -xinerama (-consolekit%*) (-ldap%*) (-systemd%)" 1,639 kB

Total: 7 packages (3 upgrades, 1 new, 3 reinstalls, 3 uninstalls), Size of downloads: 1,777 kB
Conflict: 4 blocks


The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1
# required by @selected
# required by @world (argument)
>=sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r2 systemd


does this mean that it is time to switch to systemd? :cry:
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

systemd is *not* installed in my system!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please provide full output of
Code:
emerge -ptvuND world

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same question.

Should I USE="udev -systemd", uninstall udev, keep systemd
or USE="-udev systemd", uninstall systemd, keep udev?

Totally confused, is there a document about it?

Here's my output, I was planning to remove udev and use systemd.

Thanks.

Code:

gentoo ~ # emerge -ptvuND world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge       ] media-video/snappy-0.2
[ebuild   R    ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r8:0.10  USE="X a52 aac alsa dts dvd ffmpeg flac lame libass mms mp3 mpeg ogg pulseaudio theora vcd vorbis wavpack x264 xv xvid -cdda* -dv -dvb -http -jack -libvisual -musepack -opus -oss -taglib -v4l -vpx" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] media-tv/xbmc-12.2-r1  USE="X alsa bluray java joystick mysql nfs opengl projectm pulseaudio rsxs samba sdl sse sse2 usb vdpau webserver xrandr -airplay (-altivec) -avahi -bluetooth -caps -cec -css -debug -gles -goom -midi (-neon) -profile -pvr -rtmp -sftp -udev* -upnp -vaapi" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python2_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" 0 kB
[ebuild     U  ] net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1_p20130710 [1.1.0_beta1_p20130605] USE="X alsa channels client cups ffmpeg gstreamer jpeg pulseaudio sse2 xv -debug -directfb -doc -server -smartcard {-test} -xinerama" 6,526 kB
[ebuild   R    ] media-sound/deadbeef-0.5.6-r3::stuff  USE="aac alsa ape converter cover cover-imlib2 curl dts ffmpeg flac gtk3 hotkeys mms mp3 nls notify pulseaudio threads vorbis wavpack -adplug -alac -cdda* -dumb -gme -gtk2 -lastfm -m3u -midi -mono2stereo -musepack -nullout -oss -psf -rpath -shellexec -shn -sid -sndfile -src -static -supereq -tta -vtx -zip" LINGUAS="-be -bg -bn -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -fa -fi -fr -gl -he -hr -hu -id -it -ja -kk -km -lg -lt -nb -nl -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -te -tr -ug -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   #] sys-apps/gnome-disk-utility-3.8.2  USE="gnome systemd* -fat" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] media-gfx/gimp-2.8.6:2  USE="alsa bzip2 dbus exif gnome jpeg jpeg2k lcms mmx mng pdf png smp sse svg tiff -aalib (-altivec) -curl -debug -doc -postscript -python -udev* -webkit -wmf -xpm" LINGUAS="-am -ar -ast -az -be -bg -br -ca -ca@valencia -cs -csb -da -de -dz -el -en_CA -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -gu -he -hi -hr -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -kn -ko -lt -lv -mk -ml -ms -my -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -si -sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th -tr -tt -uk -vi -xh -yi -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild     U #] media-video/totem-3.8.2-r1 [3.8.2] USE="introspection nautilus -debug -flash -grilo -lirc -nsplugin -python {-test} -zeitgeist" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python2_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] media-plugins/audacious-plugins-3.4_beta2::overlay  USE="aac alsa cue ffmpeg flac gnome lame libnotify libsamplerate mms mp3 nls pulseaudio sdl vorbis wavpack -adplug -bs2b -cdda* -fluidsynth -ipv6 -jack -lirc -midi -scrobbler -sid -sndfile" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] gnome-extra/gnome-tweak-tool-3.8.0  PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6"
[nomerge       ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.8.3-r1  USE="i18n networkmanager -bluetooth" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6"
[ebuild     U #]   gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1 [3.8.0] USE="gnome-shell introspection tcpd -accessibility -audit -debug -fallback -fprint -ipv6 -plymouth (-selinux) -smartcard {-test} -xinerama (-consolekit%*) (-ldap%) (-systemd%)" 1,639 kB
[ebuild   R   #]   gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3:2  USE="colord cups gnome-online-accounts i18n socialweb systemd* -bluetooth -debug -kerberos -modemmanager -v4l" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] media-video/totem-3.8.2-r1 [3.8.2] USE="introspection nautilus -debug -flash -grilo -lirc -nsplugin -python {-test} -zeitgeist" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python2_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6"
[ebuild   R    ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-1.0-r1:1.0  USE="X a52 aac alsa dts dvd ffmpeg flac lame libass mms mp3 mpeg ogg pulseaudio theora vcd vorbis wavpack x264 -cdda* -dv -dvb -http -jack -libvisual -opus -oss -taglib -v4l (-vpx)" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1 [3.8.0] USE="gnome-shell introspection tcpd -accessibility -audit -debug -fallback -fprint -ipv6 -plymouth (-selinux) -smartcard {-test} -xinerama (-consolekit%*) (-ldap%) (-systemd%)"
[ebuild   R   #]  gnome-base/gnome-session-3.8.2.1-r1  USE="systemd* -debug -doc -gconf -ipv6" 0 kB
[ebuild     U #]   gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.3-r1 [3.8.3] USE="colord cups i18n policykit short-touchpad-timeout -debug (-packagekit) -smartcard {-test} -udev*" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 5 kB
[ebuild   R    ]    media-libs/libcanberra-0.30-r1  USE="alsa gnome gstreamer gtk gtk3 pulseaudio sound -oss -tdb -udev*" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]     media-sound/pulseaudio-4.0  USE="X alsa asyncns caps dbus gdbm glib gnome gtk libsamplerate orc ssl systemd* tcpd -avahi -bluetooth -doc -equalizer -ipv6 -jack -lirc (-neon) (-oss) -qt4 -realtime (-system-wide) {-test} -udev* -webrtc-aec -xen" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] gnome-base/nautilus-3.8.2::overlay  USE="exif gnome introspection previewer -debug (-packagekit) -sendto {-test} -tracker -xmp"
[ebuild   R   #]  gnome-base/gvfs-1.16.3  USE="bluray gdu gnome-keyring gtk http samba systemd* udisks -afp -archive -avahi -bluetooth -cdda* -fuse -gnome-online-accounts -gphoto2 -ios -mtp {-test} -udev*" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]   sys-fs/udisks-2.1.0:2  USE="gptfdisk introspection systemd* -crypt -debug (-selinux)" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1 [3.8.0] USE="gnome-shell introspection tcpd -accessibility -audit -debug -fallback -fprint -ipv6 -plymouth (-selinux) -smartcard {-test} -xinerama (-consolekit%*) (-ldap%) (-systemd%)"
[ebuild   R    ]  sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.30  USE="introspection systemd* -doc -vala" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] gnome-base/gnome-light-3.6.2:2.0::overlay  USE="cups gnome-shell -fallback"
[nomerge       ]  gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3:2  USE="colord cups gnome-online-accounts i18n socialweb systemd* -bluetooth -debug -kerberos -modemmanager -v4l" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom"
[ebuild   R   #]   x11-misc/colord-0.1.34:0/1  USE="gusb introspection systemd* -examples -extra-print-profiles -scanner -udev* -vala" 0 kB
[ebuild     U  ]   net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2-r2 [0.9.8.2] USE="consolekit dhcpcd introspection nss ppp systemd* wext -avahi -bluetooth -connection-sharing -dhclient -gnutls -modemmanager -resolvconf {-test} -vala" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]    sys-power/upower-0.9.20-r2  USE="deprecated introspection systemd* -doc -ios" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]     sys-auth/polkit-0.111  USE="introspection nls pam systemd* -examples -gtk -kde (-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]      sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r2  USE="consolekit cracklib gnome-keyring sha512 systemd* -debug -minimal -mktemp -pam_krb5 -pam_ssh -passwdqc (-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] dev-vcs/git-1.8.3.2  USE="blksha1 curl gnome-keyring gpg iconv nls pcre threads webdav -cgi -cvs -doc -emacs -gtk -highlight -perl (-ppcsha1) -python -subversion {-test} -tk -xinetd" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python2_6 (-python2_5%)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6 (-python2_5%)" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] gnome-extra/gnome-tweak-tool-3.8.0  PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6"
[nomerge       ]  x11-wm/metacity-2.34.13  USE="{-test} -xinerama"
[ebuild   R    ]   x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.20:2::stuff [2.24.20:2::gentoo] USE="cups introspection vim-syntax -appmenu% (-aqua) -debug -examples -overlay% {-test} -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-3.6.1  USE="pam systemd* -debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]  sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12  USE="X systemd* -debug -doc (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" 0 kB
[ebuild     U  ] x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.8.1 [2.8.0] 361 kB
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/busybox-1.21.0  USE="pam static systemd* -ipv6 -livecd -make-symlinks -math -mdev -savedconfig (-selinux) -sep-usr -syslog" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.98  USE="lvm1 readline static-libs thin -clvm -cman (-selinux) -static -udev*"
[nomerge       ]  sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.2.1 [0.1.5-r1]
[nomerge       ]   dev-lang/ruby-2.0.0_p247:2.0 [1.9.3_p448:1.9] USE="gdbm ncurses rdoc readline ssl yaml -berkdb -debug -doc -examples -ipv6 -rubytests -socks5 -tk -xemacs"
[ebuild     U  ]    dev-ruby/rdoc-4.0.1-r1 [4.0.1] USE="-doc {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20* -jruby -ruby18" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]     dev-ruby/racc-1.4.9  USE="-doc {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20* -jruby -ruby18" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.98  USE="lvm1 readline static-libs thin -clvm -cman (-selinux) -static -udev*" 0 kB
[ebuild     U  ]  sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.2.1 [0.1.5-r1] 134 kB
[nomerge       ] dev-ruby/racc-1.4.9  USE="-doc {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20* -jruby -ruby18"
[nomerge       ]  dev-ruby/rake-0.9.6  USE="-doc {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20* -jruby -ruby18"
[nomerge       ]   virtual/rubygems-4:ruby19  RUBY_TARGETS="(ruby19)"
[nomerge       ]    dev-lang/ruby-1.9.3_p448:1.9  USE="gdbm ncurses rdoc readline ssl yaml -berkdb -debug -doc -examples -ipv6 -rubytests -socks5 -tk -xemacs"
[nomerge       ]     dev-ruby/rdoc-4.0.1-r1 [4.0.1] USE="-doc {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20* -jruby -ruby18"
[ebuild   R    ]      dev-ruby/json-1.8.0  USE="-doc {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20* -jruby -ruby18" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]       dev-ruby/rake-0.9.6  USE="-doc {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20* -jruby -ruby18" 0 kB
[ebuild  NS    ]        virtual/rubygems-6:ruby20 [4:ruby19] RUBY_TARGETS="(ruby20)" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ]         dev-ruby/rubygems-2.0.3  USE="-server {-test}" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20* -jruby -ruby18" 0 kB
[ebuild  NS    ]          dev-lang/ruby-2.0.0_p247:2.0 [1.9.3_p448:1.9] USE="gdbm ncurses rdoc readline ssl yaml -berkdb -debug -doc -examples -ipv6 -rubytests -socks5 -tk -xemacs" 10,554 kB
[ebuild   R    ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r1:0/1.12.4  USE="nptl xorg xvfb -dmx -doc -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal (-selinux) -static-libs -tslib -udev* -xnest" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] sys-apps/pciutils-3.2.0  USE="kmod -static-libs -zlib"
[ebuild  N     ]  sys-apps/hwids-20130707  USE="udev" 0 kB
[ebuild  N     ]   virtual/udev-200  USE="gudev hwdb introspection keymap kmod static-libs (-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N     ]    sys-fs/udev-205  USE="acl firmware-loader gudev hwdb introspection keymap kmod openrc static-libs -doc (-selinux)" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] net-misc/networkmanager-pptp-0.9.8.2  USE="gtk"
[nomerge       ]  net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2-r2 [0.9.8.2] USE="consolekit dhcpcd introspection nss ppp systemd* wext -avahi -bluetooth -connection-sharing -dhclient -gnutls -modemmanager -resolvconf {-test} -vala"
[nomerge       ]   net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.0-r2  USE="dbus readline ssl -ap -eap-sim -fasteap -gnutls -p2p (-ps3) -qt4 (-selinux) -smartcard -wimax -wps"
[ebuild     U  ]    dev-libs/libnl-3.2.22-r1:3 [3.2.22:3] USE="-doc -python% -static-libs -utils" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* python3_3%* -python2_6% -python3_1% -python3_2%" 0 kB
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.23.1  USE="cramfs ncurses nls static-libs suid unicode -bash-completion -caps -cytune -fdformat -old-linux (-selinux) -slang {-test} -tty-helpers -udev*" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] net-im/skype-4.2.0.11  USE="-pax_kernel (-selinux)"
[nomerge       ]  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs-20130224  USE="development -gtkstyle"
[nomerge       ]   app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs-20130224-r2  USE="development" ABI_X86="32"
[ebuild   R    ]    media-libs/libtheora-1.1.1-r1  USE="encode -doc -examples -static-libs" ABI_X86="32* (64) (-x32)" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] media-tv/xbmc-12.2-r1  USE="X alsa bluray java joystick mysql nfs opengl projectm pulseaudio rsxs samba sdl sse sse2 usb vdpau webserver xrandr -airplay (-altivec) -avahi -bluetooth -caps -cec -css -debug -gles -goom -midi (-neon) -profile -pvr -rtmp -sftp -udev* -upnp -vaapi" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python2_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6"
[nomerge       ]  media-libs/sdl-mixer-1.2.12-r3  USE="flac fluidsynth mad midi mp3 vorbis wav -mikmod -mod -modplug -playtools -smpeg -static-libs -timidity"
[nomerge       ]   media-sound/fluidsynth-1.1.6  USE="alsa dbus pulseaudio readline -debug -examples -jack -ladspa -lash -portaudio -sndfile"
[ebuild     U  ]    media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.27.1-r1 [1.0.27.1] USE="debug -alisp -doc -python" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] gnome-base/gnome-light-3.6.2:2.0::overlay  USE="cups gnome-shell -fallback"
[nomerge       ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.8.3-r1  USE="i18n networkmanager -bluetooth" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6"
[nomerge       ]   app-accessibility/caribou-0.4.11  PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6"
[ebuild     U  ]    dev-libs/libgee-0.10.2:0.8 [0.10.1:0.8] USE="introspection" 607 kB
[nomerge       ] media-gfx/eog-plugins-3.8.1  USE="exif flickr picasa -map -python" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python2_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6"
[nomerge       ]  dev-libs/libgdata-0.13.3:0/13  USE="gnome introspection -debug -static-libs -vala"
[nomerge       ]   net-libs/gnome-online-accounts-3.8.2  USE="gnome introspection -debug -kerberos"
[nomerge       ]    gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3:2  USE="colord cups gnome-online-accounts i18n socialweb systemd* -bluetooth -debug -kerberos -modemmanager -v4l" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom"
[nomerge       ]     net-libs/libsocialweb-0.25.21  USE="gnome introspection networkmanager -connman -vala"
[nomerge       ]      net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2-r2 [0.9.8.2] USE="consolekit dhcpcd introspection nss ppp systemd* wext -avahi -bluetooth -connection-sharing -dhclient -gnutls -modemmanager -resolvconf {-test} -vala"
[ebuild  N     ]       net-misc/dhcpcd-5.99.7-r1  0 kB
[nomerge       ] sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.2.1 [0.1.5-r1]
[ebuild     U  ]  dev-libs/boost-1.53.0:0/1.53 [1.52.0-r6:0/1.52] USE="icu nls threads tools -debug -doc -mpi -python -static-libs" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_3 -python2_5 -python2_6 -python3_1 -python3_2" 0 kB
[blocks B      ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking sys-fs/udev-205)
[blocks B      ] sys-fs/udev ("sys-fs/udev" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-205)

Total: 49 packages (12 upgrades, 4 new, 2 in new slots, 31 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 19,822 kB
Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

x11-base/xorg-server:0

  (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

  (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r1::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
    >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.12[udev] required by (x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.8.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

gnome-base/gvfs:0

  (gnome-base/gvfs-1.16.3::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

  (gnome-base/gvfs-1.16.3::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
    gnome-base/gvfs[cdda,udev] required by (media-sound/sound-juicer-3.5.1_pre20121231::gentoo, installed)


It might be possible to solve these slot collisions
by applying all of the following changes:
   - gnome-base/gvfs-1.16.3 (Change USE: +cdda +udev)
   - x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r1 (Change USE: +udev)


 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (sys-apps/systemd-205::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
    >=sys-apps/systemd-186[pam] required by (gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-39 required by (media-sound/pulseaudio-4.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-197 required by (sys-fs/udisks-2.1.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-44-r1[pam] required by (sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-44 required by (x11-misc/colord-0.1.34::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-44 required by (sys-apps/gnome-disk-utility-3.8.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    sys-apps/systemd required by (gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.3-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-power/upower-0.9.20-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    sys-apps/systemd required by (gnome-base/gvfs-1.16.3::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-auth/polkit-0.111::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-186 required by (sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.30::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-183 required by (gnome-base/gnome-session-3.8.2.1-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-31 required by (gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-3.6.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-31 required by (gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-183 required by (net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

  (sys-fs/udev-205::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    >=sys-fs/udev-200[gudev?,hwdb?,introspection?,keymap?,kmod?,selinux?,static-libs?] (>=sys-fs/udev-200[gudev,hwdb,introspection,keymap,kmod,static-libs]) required by (virtual/udev-200::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)


For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle wrote:
please provide full output of
Code:
emerge -ptvuND world


Here's to you :D

Code:
gentoo polslinux # emerge -ptvuND world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U #] gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1 [3.8.0] USE="fallback gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd -accessibility -audit -debug -fprint -plymouth (-selinux) -smartcard {-test} -xinerama (-consolekit%*) (-ldap%*) (-systemd%)" 1,639 kB
[ebuild     U #]  gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.3-r1 [3.8.3] USE="colord cups i18n policykit short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-packagekit) -smartcard {-test}" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 5 kB
[ebuild   R    ]  sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r2  USE="consolekit cracklib gnome-keyring sha512 systemd* -debug -minimal -mktemp -pam_krb5 -pam_ssh -passwdqc (-selinux)" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] sys-fs/udev-205  USE="acl firmware-loader gudev hwdb introspection keymap kmod openrc -doc (-selinux) -static-libs"
[blocks b      ]  sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking sys-fs/udev-205, app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1)
[uninstall     ]   app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1  USE="-systemd"
[blocks b      ] >=sys-apps/systemd-197 (">=sys-apps/systemd-197" is blocking sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3)
[uninstall     ]  sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3
[nomerge       ] gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3:2  USE="bluetooth colord cups gnome-online-accounts i18n kerberos socialweb v4l -debug -modemmanager -systemd" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom"
[nomerge       ]  sys-apps/systemd-205  USE="acl filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection keymap kmod lzma pam policykit tcpd -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -openrc -python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"
[blocks b      ]   sys-fs/udev ("sys-fs/udev" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-205)
[uninstall     ]    sys-fs/udev-205  USE="acl firmware-loader gudev hwdb introspection keymap kmod openrc -doc (-selinux) -static-libs"
[ebuild  N     ]  sys-apps/systemd-205  USE="acl filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection keymap kmod lzma pam policykit tcpd -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -openrc -python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 kB

Total: 4 packages (2 upgrades, 1 new, 1 reinstall, 3 uninstalls), Size of downloads: 1,643 kB
Conflict: 4 blocks

The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1
# required by @selected
# required by @world (argument)
>=sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r2 systemd

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

polslinux wrote:
Code:
[ebuild     U #] gnome-base/gdm-3.8.3.1 [3.8.0] USE="fallback gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd -accessibility -audit -debug -fprint -plymouth (-selinux) -smartcard {-test} -xinerama (-consolekit%*) (-ldap%*) (-systemd%)" 1,639 kB


/usr/portage/gnome-base/gdm/gdm-3.8.3.1.ebuild wrote:
Code:
# systemd needed for proper restarting, bug #463784
COMMON_DEPEND="
...
virtual/pam
>=sys-apps/systemd-186[pam]
sys-auth/pambase[systemd]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok but this will install systemd into my system.
So both systemd and openrc can live without problems or should i have to install systemd, configure it and then remove openrc?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

polslinux wrote:
ok but this will install systemd into my system.
So both systemd and openrc can live without problems or should i have to install systemd, configure it and then remove openrc?

yes, they can coexists and you can safely continue using openrc
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternatively, you can switch to eudev or (if you feel brave) mdev.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just report back, I go with systemd.

After removed static-libs USE flag in pacakge.use for all related packages, I got systemd installed, removed udev, following http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd .

I'am lucky that system boots fine after reboot, most services worked fine.

Before finally settle down to Systemd, I want to ask, systemd/udev/eudev or mdev, which one is recommend in gentoo?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisyu wrote:
Just report back, I go with systemd.

After removed static-libs USE flag in pacakge.use for all related packages, I got systemd installed, removed udev, following http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd .

I'am lucky that system boots fine after reboot, most services worked fine.

Before finally settle down to Systemd, I want to ask, systemd/udev/eudev or mdev, which one is recommend in gentoo?

Thanks.

I must understand I don't understand the underlined, afaik, systemd was merged into udev and not vice versa, I really don't understand how your system boots without udev.

Gentoo doesn't recommend either, as said before systemd shouldn't be in the list, the list should contain mdev, udev and eudev.
the former is not recommended if you need hotplug.
regarding the latter two, udev it pushed strongly by one gentoo dev here, eudev is a gentoo project maintained by gentoo programmers. I don't see any gentoo specific endorsement of either one in the near future .
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
Alternatively, you can switch to eudev or (if you feel brave) mdev.

No, you cannot if you are a gnome user (here: gdm): Gnome uses all means to force systemd. The only way to remove systemd is to get rid of gnome.
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mv wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Alternatively, you can switch to eudev or (if you feel brave) mdev.

No, you cannot if you are a gnome user (here: gdm): Gnome uses all means to force systemd. The only way to remove systemd is to get rid of gnome.
Is there anything which can replace networkmanager + nm-applet combo (used with vpn), and which is as easy to use? I don't know of any and I have used wicd, wpa-gui, net.wlan0 in the past.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle wrote:
unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now.


That doesn't make any sense. You might want to rephrase.

Indeed, the path away from systemd is path away from GNOME. Try Xfce.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle wrote:
chrisyu wrote:
Just report back, I go with systemd.

After removed static-libs USE flag in pacakge.use for all related packages, I got systemd installed, removed udev, following http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd .

I'am lucky that system boots fine after reboot, most services worked fine.

Before finally settle down to Systemd, I want to ask, systemd/udev/eudev or mdev, which one is recommend in gentoo?

Thanks.

I must understand I don't understand the underlined, afaik, systemd was merged into udev and not vice versa, I really don't understand how your system boots without udev.

Gentoo doesn't recommend either, as said before systemd shouldn't be in the list, the list should contain mdev, udev and eudev.
the former is not recommended if you need hotplug.
regarding the latter two, udev it pushed strongly by one gentoo dev here, eudev is a gentoo project maintained by gentoo programmers. I don't see any gentoo specific endorsement of either one in the near future .


I mean I removed sys-fs/udev not virtual/udev .

virtual/udev depends sys-fs/udev sys-apps/systemd or sys-fs/eudev.
But gnome need systemd, so seems to me the only way is to keep systemd and remove udev.

Cannot access home computer now, I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisyu wrote:

I mean I removed sys-fs/udev not virtual/udev .

virtual/udev depends sys-fs/udev sys-apps/systemd or sys-fs/eudev.
But gnome need systemd, so seems to me the only way is to keep systemd and remove udev.

Cannot access home computer now, I could be wrong.


No, you are right. It's already said in this thread earlier too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssuominen wrote:
DaggyStyle wrote:
unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now.


That doesn't make any sense. You might want to rephrase.

Indeed, the path away from systemd is path away from GNOME. Try Xfce.

what does not makes sense? isn't that the main reason eudev came into existence? to decouple systemd within udev?

so logic dictates that if he had new enough udev, he doesn't need systemd.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle wrote:
ssuominen wrote:
DaggyStyle wrote:
unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now.


That doesn't make any sense. You might want to rephrase.

Indeed, the path away from systemd is path away from GNOME. Try Xfce.

what does not makes sense? isn't that the main reason eudev came into existence? to decouple systemd within udev?

so logic dictates that if he had new enough udev, he doesn't need systemd.


Sorry but answering that would be feeding the... You must know better as an experienced'ish user.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssuominen wrote:
DaggyStyle wrote:
ssuominen wrote:
DaggyStyle wrote:
unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now.


That doesn't make any sense. You might want to rephrase.

Indeed, the path away from systemd is path away from GNOME. Try Xfce.

what does not makes sense? isn't that the main reason eudev came into existence? to decouple systemd within udev?

so logic dictates that if he had new enough udev, he doesn't need systemd.


Sorry but answering that would be feeding the... You must know better as an experienced'ish user.


funny that you expect me to understand what you meant meanwhile referring to me as a troll, I'd expect better from someone who is a dev in gentoo.
I didn't see anything wrong in what I've wrote, nor in my answer, if you cannot stand such arguments, don't answer them at all.

moreover, you could have contacted me via pm and explain it to me if you didn't wanted to do that via the topic...

unless you or someone else point me to what I wrote wrong and prove it to me (if I was wrong and that was proved to me, I'd happily retract me statement and acknowledge my mistake), I'm staying with my statement.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ppurka wrote:
Is there anything which can replace networkmanager + nm-applet combo (used with vpn), and which is as easy to use?

Maybe there are alternative frontends, but I am not aware of an alternative for networkmanager usable by non-experts.
AFAIK networkmanager does not depend on systemd yet, and I cannot imagine that it will, but unfortunately it depends on polkit which is much worse from a security point of view. It has practically become impossible to have a reasonable secure laptop with connections changing easily for non-expert users nowadays :(
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle wrote:
unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now.

unmerge sys-fs/udev, it is part of systemd ?!?!

Code:
   qlist -Iv udev systemd

sys-apps/systemd-201
sys-apps/systemd-ui-2
virtual/udev-200

@ssuominen, don't be too short in answere if eplanation is needed :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mv wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Alternatively, you can switch to eudev or (if you feel brave) mdev.

No, you cannot if you are a gnome user (here: gdm): Gnome uses all means to force systemd. The only way to remove systemd is to get rid of gnome.


Wait; I'm using GNOME, everything seems fine, packages are up2date. I don't have systemd installed (in fact, I masked it). I am using openrc (plus openrc-settingsd) with eudev.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulenrich wrote:
DaggyStyle wrote:
unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now.

unmerge sys-fs/udev, it is part of systemd ?!?!

Code:
   qlist -Iv udev systemd

sys-apps/systemd-201
sys-apps/systemd-ui-2
virtual/udev-200

@ssuominen, don't be too short in answere if eplanation is needed :)


seriously? I wrote "unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now." and you read "unmerge udev, it is part of systemd now."?
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TL;DR: I think it is best to try different things and make your own educated choice; but if you don't want to experiment, it's up to you if you follow the masses or the minority. Who the masses are depends on the way you look at it...

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If you want to continue to use Gnome 3; yes, you will need systemd at the moment and something along the lines of USE="policykit systemd udev -consolekit", this does not imply that you need to remove openrc so you can keep that around. Some people are doing efforts to fork / unbundle the needed services; but, as far as I am aware of they are not currently in a state you can run them separately. Otherwise, I assume there would be a choice instead of a hard dependency in the ebuilds. If you don't want or need Gnome 3, feel free to consider to use alternatives.

DaggyStyle wrote:
seriously? I wrote "unmerge systemd, it is part of udev now." and you read "unmerge udev, it is part of systemd now."?


You may want to revise what systemd and udev are and the relation between them; as a hint, check the DESCRIPTION sections of `man systemd`, `man systemd-udevd` and `man 7 udev`. How can a system and service manager be part of software that does device management? Well, it can; but that wouldn't make much sense. systemd and openrc use udev, not the other way around. If you don't believe me, a simple Google query for "systemd udev" will show that udev's sources merged into systemd, others mentioning that udev became a part of systemd; so, the forks and unbundle efforts have been done to get udev back out of systemd...

chrisyu wrote:
Before finally settle down to Systemd, I want to ask, systemd/udev/eudev or mdev, which one is recommend in gentoo?


There is no single definitive recommendation from Gentoo itself; Gentoo is about choice (see About / Philosophy pages), and encourage users to try alternatives and decide for themselves.

From the community perspective; there are users that consider it written in a bad design, there are users for whom it hasn't worked, there are users that use it because they must and there are users that just use it and there are also users that love it. So, depending on whom you get an advice or recommendation from you will get different advice; some outweigh the other, but I don't think looking at popularity is necessary the best idea. At least, that isn't what choice is about; and if that's your choice, I guess you could stick to defaults and look at unassociated usage graphs for the packages you consider to use. Well, as long as they are compatible with one another; compatibility, that's often a problem you come across when you are making tough choices...

A nice DM would be one that supports multiple display servers, init systems, message buses, and so on and fits for everyone; but such a DM would probably never get finished.
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