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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:31 pm Post subject: A few questions[SOLVED] |
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Hi.
I'm a new Gentoo user. I've just completed the install system. Tried to install KDE desktop. commanded emerge kdebase-meta. And there is a collision. I couldnt find what to do. tried portageq command but got 'invalid atom' answer. How can I use portageq, which command? If necessary how can I bug report?
After update some news are messaged. I understand some developments. But should I use new version or old one?
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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hcyildiran,
kdebase-meta is a big set of packages and you will also want Xorg.
Its perfectly possible to run KDE on one system and display the Windows on another system.
Most users don't want that today but kde-meta does not install Xorg, so do that first.
Install and test Xorg first.
Do not skip the testing.
Gottcha. Be sure your profile (eselect profile list) is set to a profile ending in /kde
That way you will have a good set of gefault USE flags for KDE.
If you change your profile, run Code: | emerge -uDNav world | to make the new profile take effect. _________________ Regards,
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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hello again. What is th correct command for Xorg
Code: | emerge --ask xorg
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy xorg |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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hcyildiran,
Xorg has a guide. Follow the link in my last post.
Click on the purple word Xorg. _________________ Regards,
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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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My laptop has Intel-Ati hybrid card. I have been using Manjaro with only Intel card. Ati doesnt work. Same in Gentoo? |
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VoidMage Watchman
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the truth is that gstreamer packaging in Gentoo stinks.
Now, it did get better in the last six months or so, but still...
That there are two slots of it adds to the problem.
What you're seeing here is a result of a change in gst-plugins-base 1.0 slot ebuild, that hasn't been in any way ported back to 0.10 slot.
In the short term, setting '-vorbis' on 0.10 slot of gst-plugins-meta might get you a workaround, but this still needs to be reported to be really fixed. |
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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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I understand but which one is better for a rookie. What 's your suggestion and how can I do that? |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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hcyildiran,
There is a thread in the forums about making Intel/ATI hybrids work.
I cannot test it, so all I know is that its there. It does not look easy, so make KDE work with your Intel graphics first. _________________ Regards,
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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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I had started to emerge kdebase-meta, installed about 200 of 460 files. Than I stopped it and installed Xterm by your guidance. After installing xterm, command startx, screen is like this
[IMG]http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h383/hcyildiran/DSCN2032.jpg[/IMG]
Is it allright?
I continued
Code: | emerge -uDNav world |
I removed all collision files and completed install.
I added DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" into /etc/conf.d/xdm and than
Code: | # rc-update add xdm default
# /etc/init.d/xdm start |
But I couldnt get dextop yet. What should I do? |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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hcyildiran,
Your image is correct. You have three xterms.
On closer inspection, the green bars at the top of the xterms are missing. They are provided by twm, so it looks like twn did not start, or crashed.
That shows that Xorg works with the twm window manager. You can use it if you like.
However, it was only installed as a test.
Code: | # /etc/init.d/xdm start | should have produced an error message if Xorg was already running as you can only run one instance of Xorg on a VT.
Both kwm and twm will try to use VT7.
It should work on reboot or if you stop twm first. _________________ Regards,
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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I've emerged twm and xterm again and seen the green bars. Than
Code: | # emerge --unmerge twm xterm
# reboot |
I'm still in terminal login page
I saw no error message when
Code: | # /etc/init.d/xdm start |
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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Now
Code: | # /etc/init.d/xdm start
*WARNING: xdm has already been started |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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hcyildiran,
Lets check KDE.
Remove xdm from any runlevel and kill its process, or reboot
Log in as your normal user and make a file called ~/.xinitrc
Put a single line in the file that says startkde
Save the change.
When you do startx, it will try to start kde _________________ Regards,
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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is sys-auth/consolekit installed? |
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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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yes it's already installed |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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hcyildiran,
Is consolekit started?
Installation is required but not sufficient.
It should be in the default runlevel.
You also need dbus installed and started. Again, it should be in the defualt runlevel.
Its startx to invoke KDE with startkde in your ~/.xinitrc
Its xdm in the defualt runlevel to start the graphical login manager of your choice at boot when everything else works.
You choose which graphical login manager is started by configuring xdm _________________ Regards,
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hcyildiran Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Now consolekit and dbus are started and in the default runlevel. At the same graphical login manager, ID and password, desktop isnt opened, begins to login manager again |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Finally I installed kdebase-startkde and kde is opened. Was it necessary?
Install time is too long. It took about 4 hours. Is it normal? |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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hcyildiran,
I'm not a KDE user, so I have no idea about times.
I thought startkde came with kde-meta, which is all of KDE.
I think startkde is required.
The sequence of operations is boot and run Xorg as root to display the graphical login screen, using the display manager of your choice.
On successful login, stop the root Xorg session and start a user Xorg session, running startkde.
When startkde exits, run Xorg as root to display the graphical login screen again.
If startkde is missing, run Xorg as root to display the graphical login screen again. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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