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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:52 pm    Post subject: France says me too. Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23178284
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope now those dirty USAsians feel bad about intervening back then.

If we had won the war there would have been no need for surveillance. After the work would have done, humanity would have reached an utopia where everybody lives fullfilling, happy lifes. Surveillance? Why? Not necessary.

After a day doing satisfying work, you would drive home your cheap but comfy KDF car. After a nice dinner, the kids would go to some meeting so you and your wife would have more than enough time to enjoy yourselves winkwinknudgenudge. And if you are not in the mood - well, there is a new UFA movie on your television set. Or maybe you want to plan your next KDF sponsored trip? A cruise? Or would you prefer some culture? Why not enjoy a lazy beach holyday. You don't even have to have your kids around with all those summer camps everywhere...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I humanity would have reached an utopia where everybody ...


Apart from certain minority groups.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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energyman76b wrote:
I humanity would have reached an utopia where everybody ...


Apart from certain minority groups.


I don't know what minority groups you are talking about. There would have been no minority groups. But as I said, there would have been some work to do.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
I humanity would have reached an utopia where everybody ...


Apart from certain minority groups.


I don't know what minority groups you are talking about. There would have been no minority groups. But as I said, there would have been some work to do.


Yes and there's the black leather gear too - very fetching.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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energyman76b wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
I humanity would have reached an utopia where everybody ...


Apart from certain minority groups.


I don't know what minority groups you are talking about. There would have been no minority groups. But as I said, there would have been some work to do.


Yes and there's the black leather gear too - very fetching.


go outside. See chavs and baggy/saggy pants. And then imagine a world without those scumbags.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There would have been no minority groups.
A new undesirable would have eventually been singled out and exterminated.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There would have been no minority groups.
A new undesirable would have eventually been singled out and exterminated.


there would be no new undesireables. Because there would be no root they could spring from.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure there would. Undesirable is arbitrary, so they'd just choose people with other arbitrary criteria.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from the predominant language spoken around the world, how would it have been any different if the other side had won?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Le Monde article)
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The paper alleges the data is being stored on three basement floors of the DGSE building in Paris.


No kidding. What could possibly go wrong with that?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
I humanity would have reached an utopia where everybody ...


Apart from certain minority groups.


There would have been no minority groups.


This is it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Undesirable is arbitrary

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Admins should have a restricted set of guidelines in which they would find the material needed to justify the sack of one of them.
I make no doubt that not-saying what pjp wrote would be the first of them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apart from the predominant language spoken around the world, how would it have been any different if the other side had won?
You wouldn't exist, probably, except in a slave labour camp.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How? With no Britain, who've been defeated by the Germans, I don't see how we'd still be slaves. I mean, we were already slaves. And did not have human rights/political rights or right to self determination anyway. So, what would we have lost, again?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How? With no Britain, who've been defeated by the Germans, I don't see how we'd still be slaves. I mean, we were already slaves. And did not have human rights/political rights or right to self determination anyway. So, what would we have lost, again?
You'd be in shackles now as an inferior race. That's if you had been allowed to live, which would mean you were stupid. Clever slaves would have been wiped out. Britain would simply be another state of Germany.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, not too different from the situation we are in now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, not too different from the situation we are in now.
*nods* if you say so.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
notageek wrote:
Apart from the predominant language spoken around the world, how would it have been any different if the other side had won?
You wouldn't exist, probably, except in a slave labour camp.


nope. Valiant and honorable allies.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aCOSwt wrote:
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Undesirable is arbitrary

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Admins should have a restricted set of guidelines in which they would find the material needed to justify the sack of one of them.
I make no doubt that not-saying what pjp wrote would be the first of them.
It seems as though you are objecting to what I wrote, which leads me to believe you don't understand it. Hitler decided white, blonde and blue-eyed was desirable, and everything else was undesirable. That is arbitrary.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
aCOSwt wrote:
pjp wrote:
Undesirable is arbitrary

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Admins should have a restricted set of guidelines in which they would find the material needed to justify the sack of one of them.
I make no doubt that not-saying what pjp wrote would be the first of them.
It seems as though you are objecting to what I wrote, which leads me to believe you don't understand it. Hitler decided white, blonde and blue-eyed was desirable, and everything else was undesirable. That is arbitrary.

1/ Of course I did not personally object to what you wrote.
I wrote that admins of a forum should object. No more, no less. (Of course I can elaborate about this precisely but, the point is not there, this was only meant to serve as a mute pretext)
BTW I never try to disguise my criticisms by suggesting that others should or might bother. I thought I had made obvious that I am not a bollocks-ectomized-moralist.
I could have expected you to be already aware that when I mean that pjp is disgracefully bullshitting and should be blamed severely for that, I write "pjp is disgracefully bullshitting and should be blamed severely for that period."

2/ Of course it is an evidence that I did not understand what you, I mean you-personally, wrote.
This fact is absolutely and necessarily true.
Well, as much as it is gratuitous.

But how comes that you cannot concurrently imagine that I, I mean I-personally, can have a, somehow between fair and perfect, understanding of what I quoted ?

BTW : Please do not publicly answer to this question. Because this question is nothing but a trap.
It's a trap in the sense that you get only two solutions for correctly answering it : Either by displaying the highly limited capabilities of your own understanding, exclusive-or by some sentence that I would hold for a personal insult.
(you, your, I, stand for impersonal pronouns here above.)

BTW2 : Another good reason for not answering it is that all this is gently sliding far from the original point I was trying to make.

So... verbi gratia as it appears that I once again failed to attract the attention on what I intended to draw it :

What I strongly object (and that should not exactly sound like a scoop to OTW-regulars), is that A IS B !
Whatever A, Whatever B different from A.
And of course, never mind Hitler, blue-eyed, the color of the sun, the heat of the stars, you-personally, me-personally...

I just apparently failed (once again) making you feel all the absurdity of such a statement through the mute pretext I used.
My bad!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
I humanity would have reached an utopia where everybody ...


Apart from certain minority groups.


I don't know what minority groups you are talking about. There would have been no minority groups. But as I said, there would have been some work to do.


Yes and there's the black leather gear too - very fetching.


go outside. See chavs and baggy/saggy pants. And then imagine a world without those scumbags.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject: re: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just watched the first couple of episodes of 'Misfits' - and I have a hard time to imagine why I should watch the rest. A bunch of assholes acting like idiots. Wow.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just watched the first couple of episodes of 'Misfits' - and I have a hard time to imagine why I should watch the rest. A bunch of assholes acting like idiots. Wow.
It's fairly and squarely aimed at the domestic youth market so I am not surprised you don't get it since a) You act like an elderly curmudgeon and b) you are German. That said, I found it pretty entertaining even though I haven't lived in the UK for a little while. And I am not a youth marketeer.
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