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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Irony: Professional Geeks in obscure Linux forum discussing sports, like professionals.


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Playing football all the time removes geekness. 8)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Prenj wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
Prenj wrote:
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I have no clue about fotball actually, except for two things, one that it is fun watching brazil do it, and two that barcelona got buttpirated by some german team. Nevertheless, I am supportive of BK's psychodelic venture into the world of soccer. Forward you brave sportonaut! Let the sails be pregnant with wind!
:lol:

My dad was a soccer coach for 25 years and has a stadium and a coaching award named after him and a book written about him. I was captain of my high school team, but dropped out of it in college. I haven't really followed pro soccer since the days I wanted to be Pele', but I do enjoy the game.

Ah! And I thought you were venturing out into the great unknown, and that I should support you.

We've talked about it in here before, like the time when AidanJT argued relentlessly that physical fitness is unimportant in the sport.

I remember back in the 80's in Yugoslavia, there was this idea that the sense of the game, creativity, character, skillset and group spirit if you want was most important. The result was that often when we played more professional teams, Germany in particular, we would maybe score 1:0 or 2:1, and relax at 70-80 min mark, and get steamrolled by 3 goals in 10 minutes. Half of the team were drinking and smoking :lol:


American football is the worst. They put all the effort on physical fitness. Nothing else. But physical fitness helps a lot if you know football. (see Hulk :P)
You'd class a group of obese people on a pitch "fit"?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/03/01/obesity-rampant-in-nfl-study-says/


What this sport has to do with football? And if they gonna be fat they should do fasting.

If this is fat for you it's ok:
www.esportes.r7.com/blogs/cosme-rimoli/files/2012/07/reproducao391.jpg
I'd characterize it more as big,husky or burly.
It's called genes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
American football is the worst. They put all the effort on physical fitness. Nothing else. But physical fitness helps a lot if you know football. (see Hulk :P)
You'd class a group of obese people on a pitch "fit"?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/03/01/obesity-rampant-in-nfl-study-says/
What this sport has to do with football? And if they gonna be fat they should do fasting.

If this is fat for you it's ok:
www.esportes.r7.com/blogs/cosme-rimoli/files/2012/07/reproducao391.jpg
I'd characterize it more as big,husky or burly.
It's called genes.
You said American football, not "football"
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
American football is the worst. They put all the effort on physical fitness. Nothing else. But physical fitness helps a lot if you know football. (see Hulk :P)
You'd class a group of obese people on a pitch "fit"?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/03/01/obesity-rampant-in-nfl-study-says/
What this sport has to do with football? And if they gonna be fat they should do fasting.

If this is fat for you it's ok:
www.esportes.r7.com/blogs/cosme-rimoli/files/2012/07/reproducao391.jpg
I'd characterize it more as big,husky or burly.
It's called genes.
You said American football, not "football"


I said american football. You use your feet and a ball.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
American football is the worst. They put all the effort on physical fitness. Nothing else. But physical fitness helps a lot if you know football. (see Hulk :P)
You'd class a group of obese people on a pitch "fit"?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/03/01/obesity-rampant-in-nfl-study-says/
What this sport has to do with football? And if they gonna be fat they should do fasting.

If this is fat for you it's ok:
www.esportes.r7.com/blogs/cosme-rimoli/files/2012/07/reproducao391.jpg
I'd characterize it more as big,husky or burly.
It's called genes.
You said American football, not "football"
I said american football. You use your feet and a ball.
Ok then, the problem is in the translation and because they decided to call football soccer.

If you had said "football in America" I would have thought "Major League Soccer", "LA Galaxy", "David Beckham". Whereas usually "American football" is gridiron - a different game. Much in the same way that "Australian Rules Football" and "Gaelic Football" are different games
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
American football is the worst. They put all the effort on physical fitness. Nothing else. But physical fitness helps a lot if you know football. (see Hulk :P)
You'd class a group of obese people on a pitch "fit"?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/03/01/obesity-rampant-in-nfl-study-says/
What this sport has to do with football? And if they gonna be fat they should do fasting.

If this is fat for you it's ok:
www.esportes.r7.com/blogs/cosme-rimoli/files/2012/07/reproducao391.jpg
I'd characterize it more as big,husky or burly.
It's called genes.
You said American football, not "football"
I said american football. You use your feet and a ball.
Ok then, the problem is in the translation and because they decided to call football soccer.

If you had said "football in America" I would have thought "Major League Soccer", "LA Galaxy", "David Beckham". Whereas usually "American football" is gridiron - a different game. Much in the same way that "Australian Rules Football" and "Gaelic Football" are different games


They just paraphrase. It's called football. The end.
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valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
valerios wrote:
American football is the worst. They put all the effort on physical fitness. Nothing else. But physical fitness helps a lot if you know football. (see Hulk :P)
You'd class a group of obese people on a pitch "fit"?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/03/01/obesity-rampant-in-nfl-study-says/
What this sport has to do with football? And if they gonna be fat they should do fasting.

If this is fat for you it's ok:
www.esportes.r7.com/blogs/cosme-rimoli/files/2012/07/reproducao391.jpg
I'd characterize it more as big,husky or burly.
It's called genes.
You said American football, not "football"
I said american football. You use your feet and a ball.
Ok then, the problem is in the translation and because they decided to call football soccer.

If you had said "football in America" I would have thought "Major League Soccer", "LA Galaxy", "David Beckham". Whereas usually "American football" is gridiron - a different game. Much in the same way that "Australian Rules Football" and "Gaelic Football" are different games
They just paraphrase. It's called football. The end.
very true
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In our parts of the woods, fotball is fotball, and then there is American Rugby as we call it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In our parts of the woods, fotball is fotball, and then there is American Rugby as we call it.


Oh yep. 8)
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In our parts of the woods, fotball is fotball, and then there is American Rugby as we call it.
What do you call Aussie rules?
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In our parts of the woods, fotball is fotball, and then there is American Rugby as we call it.
What do you call Aussie rules?

Australian Rugby of course. It's very simple.
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Prenj wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
Prenj wrote:
In our parts of the woods, fotball is fotball, and then there is American Rugby as we call it.
What do you call Aussie rules?

Australian Rugby of course. It's very simple.
And logical. What do you prefer, Rugby or American rugby?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cokehabit wrote:
Prenj wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
Prenj wrote:
In our parts of the woods, fotball is fotball, and then there is American Rugby as we call it.
What do you call Aussie rules?

Australian Rugby of course. It's very simple.
And logical. What do you prefer, Rugby or American rugby?

Only thing I find entertaining is NZ hakka. I mean I can see the athletic and macho factor of it all, but it's just boring game to me.
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Why are you guys ignoring Canadian Football? Everybody always ignores the Canadians; it's not fair.
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Why are you guys ignoring Canadian Football? Everybody always ignores the Canadians; it's not fair.

They are not a real country, more of a "me too" mixed in with some frenchies. Chicks in Montreal were great tho.
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Prenj wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
Why are you guys ignoring Canadian Football? Everybody always ignores the Canadians; it's not fair.

They are not a real country, more of a "me too" mixed in with some frenchies. Chicks in Montreal were great tho.


So America isn't a mixed "country" ?

Take a look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

Only those people are Americans. Not American citizens but indigenous Americans.

How would you feel if you were expelled from your country?
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valerios wrote:
Prenj wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
Why are you guys ignoring Canadian Football? Everybody always ignores the Canadians; it's not fair.

They are not a real country, more of a "me too" mixed in with some frenchies. Chicks in Montreal were great tho.


So America isn't a mixed "country" ?

Take a look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

Only those people are Americans. Not American citizens but indigenous Americans.

How would you feel if you were expelled from your country?

Easy there Geronimo.
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valerios, the indigenous Greek. :lol:
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valerios, the indigenous Greek. :lol:


Maniots are descendants of ancient Spartans. So yes i'm indigenous.
Like Pontic Greeks,Sarakatsani...

Learn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniots#Ethnology

Valerioi are good men. 8)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerios_Leonidis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerios_Stais


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valerios, the indigenous Greek. :lol:


Maniots are descendants of ancient Spartans. So yes i'm indigenous.
Like Pontic Greeks,Sarakatsani...

Learn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniots#Ethnology

And my name is Leonidas. :P

Aha, another macedonian! :lol:
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Prenj wrote:
valerios wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
valerios, the indigenous Greek. :lol:


Maniots are descendants of ancient Spartans. So yes i'm indigenous.
Like Pontic Greeks,Sarakatsani...

Learn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniots#Ethnology

And my name is Leonidas. :P

Aha, another macedonian! :lol:



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ABOUT MACEDONIANS
 

INTRODUCTION TO ANCIENT GREEK HISTORY:  LECTURE 24 TRANSCRIPT

BY PROFESSOR DONALD KAGAN

University of Yale
 
December 6, 2007.
 
...

So, as I say, it's going to be a very major change but it's something that they don't know they're in the middle of watching. Well, in 359 a man called Philip became King of Macedon. We know the Macedonians were fundamentally Greeks. That is to say, they were Greek speakers and ethnically, if there is such a thing, they were Greek. But they were so far out of the mainstream of the development of the Greek poleis that we have been examining this semester that many, many Greeks, perhaps most of them, didn't think of them as being Greek.

When Greeks thought about what it was to be a Greek they thought about more than the fact that they spoke the Greek language, they thought fundamentally--if you get to Aristotle you see how thoroughly true this is, it had to do with a culture, a way of life and that way of life was based upon the independent polis.

Well, Macedon did not have such a structure. The Greeks called the Macedonians an ethnos, a tribal group is what that sort of means. We use the word "nation" somehow to translate ethnos and that's okay. The word "nation" itself, you remember, comes from the Latin word which means to be born; people who are born of the same stock.

But for the Greeks it had a different meaning; it was people who participated in the culture that they designated as Hellenic and they thought the Macedonians fell outside of that. There were no poleis in the Macedonian kingdom. It was something that we might call feudal. That is to say, yes there was a monarch, but there were powerful noblemen who were practically independent and who owed only a limited allegiance to the king and who were really the dominant figures in the state for most of the history prior to the appearance of Philip.

On the other hand, the king was an important and powerful character so that you have--this was true of European feudal states at certain periods in their development. On the one hand, the fundamental society was based upon great lords, great noblemen, barons, but there was a king and he was not inconsequential.

That's the situation that pertained in Macedon. In a certain sense, if a Greek had looked at Macedonian society prior to Philip, he might have described it as Homeric, and you'll be familiar with that. Sure, there were guys called basileus, but they were not really the rulers over the barons, these great noblemen in their kingdom. They thought of it as uncivilized in the technical sense.

If you don't live in a polis, a city, as they understood it, then you are not civilized; you are part of an ethnos and that's the term they used of the tribal societies all around them, Illyrians, Scythians, they were all from an ethnos. The Macedonians, on the other hand, claimed very proudly and powerfully, and insistently that they were Greeks; they were Hellenes, and they probably invented a myth of their descent. Indeed, not merely from Greeks but from the real Greeks, that is to say the Argives, who were the leading people in the time of Homer's poetry and they claimed direct descent from Agamemnon and the other Argive kings.

We hear about various Macedonian monarchs of some importance prior to Philip, back at the time of the Persian War, Alexander the first played an interesting and shady role between the Greeks and the Persians. During the Peloponnesian War we hear of a King Perdiccas, who also played a role shifting between the Spartans and the Athenians.
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Whatever, Macedonains were the shit. Alexander rocked. It took Genghis Khan to top that. Meanwhile greeks were making up stories about Achilles and building wooden horses and stuff.
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Whatever, Macedonains were the shit. Alexander rocked. It took Genghis Khan to top that. Meanwhile greeks were making up stories about Achilles and building wooden horses and stuff.


Alexander loved Achilles a lot. He went and worshiped the grave of the hero. And he was claiming to be descendant of Achilles.

And don't forget that Philip prepared all this ground for Alexander. Without him Alexander couldn't do anything.


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