View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Kollin Veteran
Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 1139 Location: Sofia/Bulgaria
|
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
a3li wrote: | Yes, I'm sure. Yes, I mean gentoo-portage.com. No, it's not the browser cache. |
Works for me also _________________ "Dear Enemy: may the Lord hate you and all your kind, may you be turned orange in hue, and may your head fall off at an awkward moment."
"Linux is like a wigwam - no windows, no gates, apache inside..." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
dcljr Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 139 Location: Austin, TX
|
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Kollin wrote: | a3li wrote: | Yes, I'm sure. Yes, I mean gentoo-portage.com. |
Works for me also |
Well, of course, today I try it and it works. First time in months… |
|
Back to top |
|
|
dcljr Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 139 Location: Austin, TX
|
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
And it's down again…
Code: | Error 503 Service Unavailable
Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:
XID: 781937797
Varnish |
OK, obviously it's just incredibly unreliable. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
lost+found Guru
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 509 Location: North~Sea~Coa~s~~t~~~
|
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:19 am Post subject: gentoo-wiki.com down? |
|
|
It seems that http://en.gentoo-wiki.com is down for quite a while now.
Does anyone know what happened?
Edit: Found an old mirror, still working at:
Code: | http://gentoo-en<dot>vfose<dot>ru/wiki/Main_Page |
Please, don't click all at the same moment, to prevent smoke!
Last edited by lost+found on Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:41 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
|
xaviermiller Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 8707 Location: ~Brussels - Belgique
|
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
it's old and no more maintained, thus prone to errors.
Please go and abuse the official wiki, which is really interesting!
http://wiki.gentoo.org _________________ Kind regards,
Xavier Miller |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tomk Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 7221 Location: Sat in front of my computer
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
teika Apprentice
Joined: 19 Feb 2011 Posts: 155 Location: YYYY-MM-DD, period. Have you ever used the Internet?
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
galiven n00b
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 23 Location: San Francisco, CA
|
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:24 am Post subject: Sad day |
|
|
This is a sad thing. gentoo-portage.com had the best UI of all the online package databases. I even donated to Mike Valstar (I think that was his name) when he needed help covering the hosting costs years and years ago. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
miket Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 488 Location: Gainesville, FL, USA
|
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Sad day |
|
|
galiven wrote: | This is a sad thing. gentoo-portage.com had the best UI of all the online package databases. |
I agree with you about that user interface. Not only that, but we've lost a lot by losing gentoo-wiki.com. One example I had recently was trying to figure out how to install X on hardware that does not support KMS (funny how you forget how to do things like that). There used to be a nice section on this topic in docs.gentoo.org, but this got edited away and unfortunately wiki.gentoo.org didn't cover this either. KMS is great on Intel hardware, but if you have to run your stuff on something else, having a resource like the gentoo-wiki page was a great thing. I'm grateful for the Wayback Machine. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
a3li Retired Dev
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 122 Location: 독일
|
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Sad day |
|
|
miket wrote: | galiven wrote: | This is a sad thing. gentoo-portage.com had the best UI of all the online package databases. |
I agree with you about that user interface. Not only that, but we've lost a lot by losing gentoo-wiki.com. One example I had recently was trying to figure out how to install X on hardware that does not support KMS (funny how you forget how to do things like that). There used to be a nice section on this topic in docs.gentoo.org, but this got edited away and unfortunately wiki.gentoo.org didn't cover this either. KMS is great on Intel hardware, but if you have to run your stuff on something else, having a resource like the gentoo-wiki page was a great thing. I'm grateful for the Wayback Machine. |
Here's the thing: Make wiki.gentoo.org cover it. That way we haven't lost at least that bit of useful information. _________________ I am Confuism. Do not bother me. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
miket Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 488 Location: Gainesville, FL, USA
|
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Sad day |
|
|
a3li wrote: | Here's the thing: Make wiki.gentoo.org cover it. That way we haven't lost at least that bit of useful information. | That would be wonderful. The hangup is a conflict in licenses. Gentoo-wiki has a non-commercial restriction; wiki.gentoo.org does not. To copy over even one article would require getting clearance from every single contributor to the article. People can certainly rewrite articles to go into wiki.gentoo.org based on ideas in the gentoo-wiki, or people could mirror the whole gentoo-wiki site on their own, but out-and-out merging of content would expose the Gentoo Foundation to liability for license violations.
I suppose that Gentoo could host such a mirror of the content of gentoo-wiki with the careful disclaimer that that content has a different license. Even if that mirror were set to be non-editable, it might still go against the desire to have the Gentoo wiki as a living source of articles under the CC BY-SA license. All official Gentoo documentation falls under that license. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
a3li Retired Dev
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 122 Location: 독일
|
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Sad day |
|
|
miket wrote: | a3li wrote: | Here's the thing: Make wiki.gentoo.org cover it. That way we haven't lost at least that bit of useful information. | That would be wonderful. The hangup is a conflict in licenses. Gentoo-wiki has a non-commercial restriction; wiki.gentoo.org does not. To copy over even one article would require getting clearance from every single contributor to the article. People can certainly rewrite articles to go into wiki.gentoo.org based on ideas in the gentoo-wiki, or people could mirror the whole gentoo-wiki site on their own, but out-and-out merging of content would expose the Gentoo Foundation to liability for license violations. |
I never explicitly told anyone to copy articles, I put pretty explicit warnings not to do so on the wiki. What I suggest is writing something on the topic based on your own experience. That way, if things have changed you update instructions in one go. _________________ I am Confuism. Do not bother me. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
gkmac Guru
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 333 Location: West Sussex, UK
|
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Sad day |
|
|
galiven wrote: | This is a sad thing. gentoo-portage.com had the best UI of all the online package databases. |
It also had the best RSS feeds. If you subscribed to gentoo-portage.com's "stable amd64" RSS feed you saw a package in there once, when it was stabled for amd64, and that was it.
With the "stable amd64" RSS feed from packages.gentoo.org you see the package when it's stabled for amd64, but when it's stabled for x86 later on it pops up again, and again when it's stabled for other arches... _________________ If ~amd64 ebuilds are cutting edge, then git-9999 ebuilds are chainsaws.
"Not everyone can ride a unicycle, does that mean we should put another wheel on it?" - Lokheed |
|
Back to top |
|
|
miket Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 488 Location: Gainesville, FL, USA
|
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Sad day |
|
|
a3li wrote: | I never explicitly told anyone to copy articles, I put pretty explicit warnings not to do so on the wiki. What I suggest is writing something on the topic based on your own experience. That way, if things have changed you update instructions in one go. |
Oh my, I apologize for the misunderstanding. When you wrote "make wiki.gentoo.org cover it", I took that you could mean this in two senses: write new articles or simply copy over ones from the old wiki. If I had understood that you did not intend the second meaning at all, I would not have written that response--especially to go into such detail about licenses to someone who is already very aware of the issues!
Now that I have learned that you are quite involved with the wiki, I offer you my thanks.
Apropos a comment I made earlier in this thread, I suppose I could write something up about how to set up a framebuffer device for VIA hardware. I seem to have figured it out. There are aspects of that which have changed since the article about it in the Valstar wiki. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
salahx Guru
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 530
|
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
I did rescue one article from there, that was thankfully still in cache and transferred to the Gentoo wiki: IPsec L2TP VPN server. (Since I'm the person who wrote the original article there and its principal author I can relicense my own contributions).
There are few guides on this subject - almost all the Linux VPN server/Windows client guides are for PPTP, rather than IPSec/L2TP (IPsec server configuration is not trivial, but the Windows client side is even worse). |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|