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What gentoo should do with udev
Keep udev as-is
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Make udev optional
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Kollin
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steveL wrote:

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So bleating about how it was quite easy for a desktop user to change his eth0 to ensp5x20 (just rename the initscript and edit the firewall configuration) is completely pointless. Firstly, these changes don't do anything for the vast majority of desktop users, since they were fine with eth0 and wlan0 already; additionally that desktop user is liable to pain when s/he plugs a new device in, which is hardly "a robust solution for the modern era." Secondly it says nothing at all about the amount of work that would be required for a multi-NIC admin, who may well have many custom config files tied into their network setup. You know, that setup they were advised to use and did so in good faith.

Sure, we can work around that with scripts et al. But there has to be a damn good reason to go making wholesale changes across the board like that: it's a big ask, and requires an investment of resources in testing. It's not something admins worth the salt like doing: they prefer fire-and-forget for damn good reasons.
And a flaky design that is supposedly meant for desktop users but makes their life harder, while not doing anything at all for net admins, is not it.
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Agree!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kollin wrote:
steveL wrote:

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So bleating about how it was quite easy for a desktop user to change his eth0 to ensp5x20 (just rename the initscript and edit the firewall configuration) is completely pointless. Firstly, these changes don't do anything for the vast majority of desktop users, since they were fine with eth0 and wlan0 already;

Agree!

Totally agree. But only with that shortened quote of steveL.

I upgraded to current~unstable and I have the old names without any scripts. Just followed the news.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
The whole thing reminds me of this


:lol: Pretty much
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