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Which Java vendor?
dev-java/icedtea-bin
78%
 78%  [ 11 ]
dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
dev-java/sun-jdk
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
dev-java/ibm-jdk-bin
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:18 pm    Post subject: Recommends for Java Vendor Reply with quote

So I need to (gulp) install Java. UGH!

Anyone recommend a version that is the least evil. Is the icedtea version feature rich enough? Do I have to use the one provide by the evil empire (Oracle)?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

icedtea :wink:

Eclipse works better with oracle :twisted:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid binary packages.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IBM ships its JDK as the engine for their many WebSphere products, so you might expect it to (a) perform well when driving large-scale web/data servers, and (b) to get fixes relevant to that environment in a timely way. It's got a lot of corporate use.

At one time, Sun produced separate server and client (or end-user) versions of their JDK, differentiated by trading off fast start-up against long-term optimization, but I think Oracle only ship the one version - maybe there are configuration options to tune between the use patterns. It's by far the most commonly used by casual end-users, and particularly as the browser plugin - makes you wonder how Oracle have made such a shambles of its sandbox security.

AFAIK Eclipse uses its own compiler during development, providing extra hooks or data for debugging. I found it works as well with IBM or Oracle JDKs as run-time (IBM is one of the major contributors to Eclipse, and sells several WebSphere development environments based on Eclipse packaged with the IBM JDK.)

If you're concerned about the current round of Java security issues, AFAIK they're down to the browser sandbox environment, The intent is to let you run code written by unverified third parties downloaded onto your own machine without external checking (put like that, it sounds a bit insane). I don't believe any of them apply to server environments, where you should be running code of known provenance checked before deployment. I believe the problematic areas are in Java code (rather then the binary runtime), and is common to all JDKs, as they use the same Java code for the sandbox environment. They're differentiated in the binary runtime's approach to garbage collection, tuning, optimizations and whatever, not in the Java code shipped with the JDK.

I've not tried IcedTea; prefer mine warm with milk and sugar. :-)

Declaration of interest: I used to work for IBM.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would use icedtea, but I used to have a few issues with it and firefox, so I'm using oracle.
I'd recommend using icedtea, but try oracle if it's not working perfectly.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LiamOS wrote:
I would use icedtea, but I used to have a few issues with it and firefox, so I'm using oracle.

What, is it lacking essential security holes?
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