[Can't] cycling gives off more CO2

eeyrjmr · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 37

Typical Republican't and their catchphrase-like ability to confirm their stupidity..

Ed Orcutt wants to tax cycling, ok he is a politician and is trying to raise money.

The reasoning however is just baffling
Starting with Orcutt does not feel bicycling is environmentally friendly and finishing with his clarification

aidanjt · Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:42 pm Post subject:

Go go fox science!
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mcgruff · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 137

Technically, he is correct - but so, so wrong.
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big dave · Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm Post subject:

when you fire a gun, you're expelling a ton of bad gases, so we need to repeal the second amendment, or at least tax it in the name of the environment.

when you speak, or go to church you're producing CO2... we need to repeal the first amendment too. you shouldn't be allowed to speak unless you pay the government money for the damage you're causing to the earth.

also, when you come to court to defend yourself against charges, you're expelling greenhouse gases regardless of how you get there, so we should repeal the 4th, 5th, and 8th amendments. you shouldn't have a trial unless you pay to save the environment.

THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS! GO GREEN GO GREEN!

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1499 Location: U.S.A.

Who is "Ed Orcutt"? Never heard of him.
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notageek · Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:38 am Post subject:

What gas comes out of your ass? I don't think it is CO2.
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notageek · Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:00 am Post subject:

How much CO2?
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notageek · Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:12 am Post subject:

So... impose carbon tax on beans and stuff that make you fart after you eat them.
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Old School · Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:34 am Post subject:

mcgruff · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 137

Exercising harder means you'll eat more. Since agriculture depends heavily on oil, that means increased fossil fuel consumption.

However, the amounts involved are negligible. Also, vastly more CO2 emissions would be saved by abandoning the car in favour of a bike.

Ed Idiot is an Orcutt.
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Old School · Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:19 am Post subject:

Thank you.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1499 Location: U.S.A.

Exercise in any form should be taxed, because it causes increased liberation of carbon dioxide. People sitting idle and minimizing their level of activity produce less carbon dioxide (far less).

It's almost impossible to effectively regulate activity, but we can regulate food, which is the actual fuel that humans convert into energy, carbon dioxide, and other waste products. So, the practical answer here is to ration food.

By outlawing certain food (most notably beans, eggs, and crossiferous vegetables), by seriously rationing food, along with all other forms of energy consumption by each individual, and inflicting severe punishiment on violators (e.g., having rations reduced and being placed in stocks in village square), we can help people to do what's good for themselves, and reduce the amount of carbon they liberate from its natural solid form (where it's nice and safe) and instead put into the atmosphere, where it has no business being.
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Old School · Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:30 am Post subject:

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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1499 Location: U.S.A.

It's not negligible at all. Exercise throws the body into hyperdrive, increasing by a factor of x5 to x8 the metabolic rate (and amount of carbon spewed).

Now, a typical person spews about as much carbon in a day as a gasoline-burning car gives off in only three miles. So let's say you live 9 miles from work. If you were to cycle there and home, you'd probably double or triple your metabolic rate for the day (spewing three man-days worth of carbon). But if you drive there and back, your car gives off six man-days' worth of carbon.

So, clearly, cycling is twice as green as driving a car. Just in terms of fuel conversion. It also uses a lot more materials (if you don't count the need to construct special "bike fag lanes" and "bike fag paths" everywhere).

However, comma, it's only about 1/2 as harmful as driving. So he's not really too far out in la-la land to be saying it should be taxed (or that food should be taxed, or rationed). The logic is precisely the same.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1499 Location: U.S.A.

It's not negligible at all. Exercise throws the body into hyperdrive, increasing by a factor of x5 to x8 the metabolic rate (and amount of carbon spewed).

Now, a typical person spews about as much carbon in a day as a gasoline-burning car gives off in only three miles. So let's say you live 9 miles from work. If you were to cycle there and home, you'd probably double or triple your metabolic rate for the day (spewing three man-days worth of carbon). But if you drive there and back, your car gives off six man-days' worth of carbon.

So, clearly, cycling is twice as green as driving a car. Just in terms of fuel conversion. It also uses a lot more materials (if you don't count the need to construct special "bike fag lanes" and "bike fag paths" everywhere).

However, it's about 1/2 as harmful as driving, which is far from "negligible". So he's not really too far out in la-la land to be saying it should be taxed (or that food should be taxed, or rationed). The logic is precisely the same.
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In my experience, it's always safe to assume a politician is a dipshit.
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pjp · Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:55 am Post subject: