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BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1480 Location: U.S.A.
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:37 am Post subject: Windows 8 Sucking Hind Tit |
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| Quote: | Windows 8 Uptake Slows for Third Straight Month
Windows 8's uptake pace slowed in February for the third straight month, an analytics company said today.
Windows 8's uptake pace slowed in February for the third straight month, an analytics company said today.
According to Net Applications, Windows 8's February usage share -- including what the firm labeled as "touch" for Windows 8 and Windows RT -- was 3% of all Windows PCs, up from January's 2.6%.
Windows 8's share increase in February was about four-tenths of a percentage point, smaller than January's gain, which in turn was smaller than either December's or November's.
The new operating system also fell further behind the pace set by Windows Vista in 2007: In its fourth month of availability, Vista powered approximately 4% of all Windows PCs. The full percentage point gap between Windows 8 and Vista was the largest so far in the tracking Computerworld has conducted.
This new trend bolsters the belief by many analysts that Windows 8 will have a very difficult time gaining traction because of a pair of factors: First, that users are put off by the dual-UI (user interface) approach of the OS, and second, that PC sales have been clobbered by a shift to tablets and smartphones, the vast majority of which run rivals' operating systems.
Windows 8's initial uptake trajectory also makes it more likely that the new operating system will be labeled as an even bigger flop than Vista, which was largely rejected by users, who stuck with the older XP until Windows 7 arrived.
The latter's uptake was a rocket ride compared to Windows 8's or Vista's: By the end of its fourth month on the market, Windows 7 had garnered a 9.7% share, more than three times Windows 8's. |
http://www.cio.com/article/729630/Windows_8_Uptake_Slows_for_Third_Straight_Month
Emphasis added. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 78 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Good to know but that would make MS armtwist OEMs more. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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flysideways Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 145
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| Have you found anything about Windows 8 that is somehow an improvement. I have had to use a work computer with it and all it has been for me is pain. |
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padoor Advocate


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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:41 am Post subject: |
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it boots up in 45 seconds and ready. not just desktop like other windows versions.
real fast internet explorer
if only they provide a way to get regular desktop like other windows it may pick up sales
i like it and its performance _________________ reach out a little bit more to catch it (DON'T BELIEVE the advocate part under my user name) |
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BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1480 Location: U.S.A.
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| padoor wrote: | it boots up in 45 seconds and ready. not just desktop like other windows versions.
real fast internet explorer
if only they provide a way to get regular desktop like other windows it may pick up sales
i like it and its performance |
Windows 8 has two interfaces: a tablet-like interface designed for small displays and a touchscreen, and the desktop interface like you're used to. You can switch back and forth between them.
Apparently, most people don't like it. So far, its adoption rate is even slower than Vista's was (although now people have a better alternative than XP, the more recently-released Windows 7).
45 seconds to boot up is nothing to be proud of. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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wswartzendruber Veteran


Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1196 Location: Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:46 am Post subject: |
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You need to learn shortcut keys to make it work. It takes time.
<WinKey> + X is a good one for admins to know. |
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aidanjt Veteran


Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 1101 Location: Rep. of Ireland
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | You need to learn shortcut keys to make it work. It takes time. |
It isn't dwm, and half of it lacks windows of any kind. There's nothing fluid about Windows 8 other than the puddle of piss in Microsoft's board room over their puerile attempts to railroad their Windows userbase into mobile space to make Windows look like less of a joke in mobile space to app developers. _________________
| juniper wrote: | | you experience political reality dilation when travelling at american political speeds. it's in einstein's formulas. it's not their fault. |
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aidanjt Veteran


Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 1101 Location: Rep. of Ireland
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| flysideways wrote: | | Have you found anything about Windows 8 that is somehow an improvement. I have had to use a work computer with it and all it has been for me is pain. |
The new copy dialogue and task manager is pretty neat... But no. Windows 8 is a disgrace that utterly fails at even the most basic OS design. _________________
| juniper wrote: | | you experience political reality dilation when travelling at american political speeds. it's in einstein's formulas. it's not their fault. |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | flysideways wrote: | | Have you found anything about Windows 8 that is somehow an improvement. I have had to use a work computer with it and all it has been for me is pain. |
The new copy dialogue and task manager is pretty neat... But no. Windows 8 is a disgrace that utterly fails at even the most basic OS design. |
wswartzendruber says you just don't know how to use it. For example, did you know it has a little artificially intelligent paperclip dude that pops up and helps you when you're struggling, and it even knows when you need it, without having to be asked? When I saw that, I came in my pants, five good spurts. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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padoor Advocate


Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 3911 Location: india
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:27 am Post subject: |
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somehow all these look biased and too soon opinions before the user gets to know how to
same phase must have gone through by windows 95 also
windows 8 desktop is not same as others
still it works better
45 sec start time is great for any windows versions prior _________________ reach out a little bit more to catch it (DON'T BELIEVE the advocate part under my user name) |
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petrjanda Veteran


Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I bought a laptop(Lenovo) that had Windows 8 on it preinstalled. First thing I did was install Windows 7.
Windows 8's dual UI is horrible, and without touch screen it doesn't make sense.
Windows 8's look is also butt ugly. _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
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salahx Guru

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 345
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:17 am Post subject: |
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I ran Windows 8 in a VM (its only gets used for my workplace's website, it will not work anything other than Windows, not even a Mac), actually its not so bad. The main issue I have with Windows 8 is it seems "legacy" (non-Windows Store aka Metro) apps are treated as "second class" citizens, kind of like how Windows executables are treated under Linux with Wine. The "desktop" is treated like a Windows store app. The interface is DIFFERENT but not necessarily horrible. True, its more suitable for touchscreens but its perfectly usable with a keyboard or mouse, just give yourself time on the "new" ways to do thing, its grows on you.
Of course I've had more luck than my friend who just got a new Windows 8 laptop. Windows store apps take longer to load on her 4-week old computer than my Windows 8 VM - and the VM is running on a 5-year old machine. Her touchpad randomly brings up the sidebar for no reason, and other issues - so your experience may vary wildly. |
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vanywan n00b

Joined: 02 Mar 2013 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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windows 8 is amazing i am really looking forward for it.  _________________ Stay blessed |
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Naib Advocate


Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 3927 Location: UK - Birmingham
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Well Microsoft ended the $15 upgrade to windows8 offer at the end of feb, it rose to $120 for the std ($200 for the pro).
Also latest Valve steam results show that linux share on steam is just over 2% while windows8 is under 0.8%
Considering valve beta came out when windows8 was launched goes to show there really isn't any uptake |
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genstorm Advocate


Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 2238 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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And there I go, wiping Windows 8 off someone's newly bought machine. _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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kernelOfTruth Watchman


Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 5488 Location: Vienna, Austria; Germany; hello world :)
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | flysideways wrote: | | Have you found anything about Windows 8 that is somehow an improvement. I have had to use a work computer with it and all it has been for me is pain. |
The new copy dialogue and task manager is pretty neat... But no. Windows 8 is a disgrace that utterly fails at even the most basic OS design. |
sums it up
the only improvements so far I found with it + it seems to take up less space on disk than windows 7
may take longer to boot up than windows 7 _________________ Unofficial minimal livecd x86/amd64 w/reiser4+truecrypt (by Neo2)
2.6.37.2_plus_v1: BFS, CFS,THP,compaction, zcache or TOI
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Prenj n00b


Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Mostar, BiH
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| vanywan wrote: | windows 8 is amazing i am really looking forward for it.  |
What bits of it are you amazed by? Or you just find it amazing since it's the first PC you own?  |
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genstorm Advocate


Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 2238 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to give Windows 8 a real chance today, as it would have saved a lot of time to just disable the annoying bits of the interface. Well instead, it blew up in my face - a simple attempt to shutdown killed that bastard OS, it simply froze at 'doing something/whatever 15% complete'. So, off it went.  _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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Closey n00b


Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 11 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| padoor wrote: | somehow all these look biased and too soon opinions before the user gets to know how to
same phase must have gone through by windows 95 also
windows 8 desktop is not same as others
still it works better
45 sec start time is great for any windows versions prior |
Meh.. my Win 7 boots and is ready in 25 seconds.
I've played around with 8 a bit but can't see much use for it outside a touch environment. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | So far, its adoption rate is even slower than Vista's was (although now people have a better alternative than XP, the more recently-released Windows 7). | Maybe that was the intent. Force people to Win 7.
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | You need to learn shortcut keys to make it work. It takes time. | Interesting. I wonder if they'll be restoring keystrokes to Office. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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feliperal Apprentice


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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| Been running a clean install of Windows 8 for the past month or so. I really like the fast boot times and it feels more responsive than Windows 7. Of course, I purchased the Start8 utility to bring back the start menu back and boot into the desktop directly. If would have been nice if they would have just gave me the choice whether I want the traditional desktop/Start Menu (Aeoro UI) vs the start screen (Metro UI). There are a few good Windows Apps available, but there is no consitency or cohesiveness between Apps and Windows Applications. |
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eyezsayitall1 n00b

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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Windows 7 is somehow better than Windows 8. You might not find innovation in Windows 8 and if, there is something like that, it has really failed to attract the users of Windows 7. Touch screen interface looks like the running Windows Media Center program in Windows 7 LOLzzz...... |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| chera_mccabe wrote: | | Windows 7 is somehow better than Windows 8. You might not find innovation in Windows 8 and if, there is something like that, it has really failed to attract the users of Windows 7. Touch screen interface looks like the running Windows Media Center program in Windows 7 LOLzzz...... |
 _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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pigeon768 l33t

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| padoor wrote: | | it boots up in 45 seconds and ready. not just desktop like other windows versions. | ...that's fucking horrendous. _________________ My political bias. |
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Prenj n00b


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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| pigeon768 wrote: | | padoor wrote: | | it boots up in 45 seconds and ready. not just desktop like other windows versions. | ...that's fucking horrendous. |
Is it "boots up and ready" as in really ready, or is it simply showing desktop (or whatever the current incarnation is called) while it's chugging for the life of it in the background and you cannot start Chrome/Firefox for another 2 minutes?
Cos when linux is up (ie when you do log in), then it is up. |
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