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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:01 pm    Post subject: "Keep your so-called workers," U.S. boss tells Fra Reply with quote

"Keep your so-called workers," U.S. boss tells France

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The CEO of a U.S. tire maker has delivered a crushing summary of how some outsiders view France's work ethic in a letter saying he would have to be stupid to take over a factory whose staff only put in three hours work a day.

Titan International's Maurice Taylor, nicknamed "The Grizz" for his negotiating style, told the left-wing French industry minister in a letter published by media on Wednesday that he had no interest in rescuing a plant set for closure.
"The French workforce gets paid high wages but works only three hours. They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three and work for three," Taylor wrote on February 8 in the letter in English to the minister, Arnaud Montebourg.

"I told this to the French union workers to their faces. They told me that's the French way!" Taylor added in the letter, which was posted by business daily Les Echos on its website and which the ministry confirmed was genuine.
"Titan is going to buy a Chinese tire company or an Indian one, pay less than one Euro per hour wage and ship all the tires France needs," he said. "You can keep the so-called workers."


:lol: :lol: :lol:

French source here
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know man. I'd like working in France.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know man. I'd like working in France.


Because what the French call "working" we would call a holiday.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what they call cafeteria, is actually a restaurant with more than 100 cuisines, just for lunch.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just love the response "that's the French way!" Let me translate it for you: piss off.

He did not say that he would use workers from the USA, did he? :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He did not say that he would use workers from the USA, did he? :lol:

Don't be silly, he wants to charge for the tires as if he had US labour costs but not actually pay for any labour.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He did not say that he would use workers from the USA, did he? :lol:

Don't be silly, he wants to charge for the tires as if he had US labour costs but not actually pay for any labour.
Oh, that makes sense. US labour costs are about 100 times higher than in India, while efficiency is 100 lower in the USA than in India. Needless to point out that only 1 in 100 tires from the USA is airtight, which is why he looked for help from France in the first place. The French perform the best blowjob in the world.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
And what they call cafeteria, is actually a restaurant with more than 100 cuisines, just for lunch.


Yep, and every dish has a pound of butter in it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and a 1000 desserts.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, the French know their stuff. Okay?

Exhibit A.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: "Keep your so-called workers," U.S. boss tells Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
"Keep your so-called workers," U.S. boss tells France

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The CEO of a U.S. tire maker has delivered a crushing summary of how some outsiders view France's work ethic in a letter saying he would have to be stupid to take over a factory whose staff only put in three hours work a day.

Titan International's Maurice Taylor, nicknamed "The Grizz" for his negotiating style, told the left-wing French industry minister in a letter published by media on Wednesday that he had no interest in rescuing a plant set for closure.
"The French workforce gets paid high wages but works only three hours. They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three and work for three," Taylor wrote on February 8 in the letter in English to the minister, Arnaud Montebourg.

"I told this to the French union workers to their faces. They told me that's the French way!" Taylor added in the letter, which was posted by business daily Les Echos on its website and which the ministry confirmed was genuine.
"Titan is going to buy a Chinese tire company or an Indian one, pay less than one Euro per hour wage and ship all the tires France needs," he said. "You can keep the so-called workers."


:lol: :lol: :lol:

French source here


of course he neclected to mention that those who worked three hours a day were on a reduced work program put into place by the (american) managment to reduce costs until demand goes up.... but hey, why not invest in Georgia or Alabama? Ok, you have to teach them how to write and read first. And six fingers are not always benefical....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: "Keep your so-called workers," U.S. boss tells Reply with quote

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"Titan is going to buy a Chinese tire company or an Indian one, pay less than one Euro per hour wage

LOL

At least he admitted to the real issue instead of pretending it had anything to do with 3hrs of work.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildhorse wrote:
aidanjt wrote:
wildhorse wrote:
He did not say that he would use workers from the USA, did he? :lol:

Don't be silly, he wants to charge for the tires as if he had US labour costs but not actually pay for any labour.
Oh, that makes sense. US labour costs are about 100 times higher than in India, while efficiency is 100 lower in the USA than in India. Needless to point out that only 1 in 100 tires from the USA is airtight, which is why he looked for help from France in the first place. The French perform the best blowjob in the world.

So says the guy from the place with 25% unemployment. You go ahead and tell us how it's done, though. :roll:
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
And what they call cafeteria, is actually a restaurant with more than 100 cuisines, just for lunch.


all you get is french food at a french cafeteria.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

I think the main reason behind the hiring of indian labor is the difference between the indian and USA currency.And also the unemployment rate they are ready to work at low wages because after converting currency they have a reasonable amount of money for their family.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Patrick22 wrote:
I think the main reason behind the hiring of indian labor is the difference between the indian and USA currency.And also the unemployment rate they are ready to work at low wages because after converting currency they have a reasonable amount of money for their family.

Thats not the only reason, it a big reason that is true, but a reason which is being whittled down with local cost of living increases (some manufacturing in the UK has actually started to be pulled back from India).
Another key influence is available labour pool to pull from. From my perspective when I have a req to hire staff (and that actually include requests for more headcount in our Indian based centre or job outline for our sister site in Phoenix) for a particular engineering job vacancy I open for UK-based, US-based or India-based there is usually one or two suitable applicants for a UK position or a US position, but something like 20 for an Indian position.

So between an apathy in the UK (and to some degree the same in the US) where people expect to earn a certain amount and not do menial work (ie factory-based production line stuff) reducing the number of available workers willing todo the low-paid work AND a general trend over the last 20-30 years in the UK/US where engineering/science degree graduates have constantly fallen ... where exactly can you hire from to not only design but to build?

A diminishing viable workforce also increases their cost *IF* they do get hired
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