Vegans exploiting the less fortunate

[BoneKracker]

I think it's pretty much humane as long s you kill it in the first trimester of the pregnancy. Eating it? That's a matter of personal values. I suppose it's okay as long as a market doesn't develop for abortion shishkabab or something.
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[LoTeK]

[BoneKracker]

No, I'm saying (as a joke) that, according to society, killing and eating a baby are very different things morally, which seems odd since we don't differentiate much between the morality of killing and eating most other things.

Think of the wasted gastronomical opportunities: fetus al dente marinara; fetuskabob; fetus parmagiano sur linguine avec du buerre lemon...
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[pjp]

As a species, we tend to not be cannibalistic, so it seems appropriate that we wouldn't eat ourselves, at any stage of development. If we were, but didn't eat fetus, then you'd have a point.
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[LoTeK]

[BoneKracker]

But, as we know quite well because it's the moral cornerstone of our "right to choose" (i.e. abortion rights), fetuses are not human beings. So what's the issue?

I personally think we should grant life forms "rights" proportional to their sentience (with additional consideration for our dependence on them). An ape, elephant, whale, dolphin, pig, dog, or horse should be more protected than a rabbit, mouse, chicken, snake, fish, or shrimp, which should be more protected than a jellyfish, krill, sea cucumber, kelp, tree, bush, or algae. But in that context, a fetus ranks somewhere in there between a sea cucumber and a mouse, depending on its stage of development.

So, if we give fetuses no credit for being human based on the fact that, unmolested, they will become human, then I don't see any rationality in avoiding their use as a food source.
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[LoTeK]

I think we have a misunderstanding here:
My post meant actual babys (not fetuses, but those things that cry ). But yes, if you meant only fetuses then there is no issue.

[erm67]

[LoTeK]

well I don't exactly recognize the first, but it seems to be some beans, so therefore it would be on my eat list. The second and third would neither be on my kill- or eat-list
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[BoneKracker]

[LoTeK]

don't you call it "freedom fries" these days?
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[BoneKracker]