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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:35 pm    Post subject: Dreamliner flying bombs. Every single one. Reply with quote

http://www.livemint.com/Industry/xz8nFso6zbbR0V17UmPG4H/Boeing-Dreamliners-leaking-fuel-spur-FAA-to-order-checks.html
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought all planes were flying bombs potentially. Plus I always found a slight smell of fuel from the older (jumbo) planes I have been on, but I always assumed that was just me being paranoid.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's only pointing it out because it is US.


I too found the fuel smell disturbing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing like the smell of aviation kerosene(sort of like napalm) in the morning.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
I thought all planes were flying bombs potentially. Plus I always found a slight smell of fuel from the older (jumbo) planes I have been on, but I always assumed that was just me being paranoid.


Thats because the air in the cabin is siphoned off of the low-pressure turbine in the engines (the so called "engine bleed air").
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but not on the 787, where no bleed air is used for cabin pressurization.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bleed air is supplied from multiple stages. During high power settings it will come from a low (relative) pressure stage and at low power settings it will come from a higher pressure stage. This helps to supply enough air for the systems. In all cases the air comes from upstream of the burner cans (where fuel is introduced).

It is common to get exhaust ingested by the engines or apu if the wind is right while on the ground. That you will smell. Also if the bleeds and packs are turned on too soon after deiicing you will smell some deice fluid.

Had some new tpe331s on new Metro 23s that had leaking oil from the front compressor seal, caused very low but noticeable oil consumption.

You are not breathing unburned jet fuel, sorry.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flysideways wrote:
The bleed air is supplied from multiple stages. During high power settings it will come from a low (relative) pressure stage and at low power settings it will come from a higher pressure stage. This helps to supply enough air for the systems. In all cases the air comes from upstream of the burner cans (where fuel is introduced).

It is common to get exhaust ingested by the engines or apu if the wind is right while on the ground. That you will smell. Also if the bleeds and packs are turned on too soon after deiicing you will smell some deice fluid.

Had some new tpe331s on new Metro 23s that had leaking oil from the front compressor seal, caused very low but noticeable oil consumption.

You are not breathing unburned jet fuel, sorry.


no, you are breathing unburned jet lubricant. Several times as toxic... ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. Reply with quote

In three days we got:
one fire
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-07/boeing-787-damaged-in-fire-while-on-ground-in-boston.html

one leaking fuel system:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/08/travel/dreamliner-fuel-leak/index.html

and now it can't even decelerate anymore:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323442804578231530324383590.html

wow, what a nice piece of shit plane.

I expect a full apology from our resident american's for bashing Airbus. Especially BK.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously it is operator error.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
In three days we got:
one fire
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-07/boeing-787-damaged-in-fire-while-on-ground-in-boston.html

one leaking fuel system:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/08/travel/dreamliner-fuel-leak/index.html

and now it can't even decelerate anymore:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323442804578231530324383590.html

wow, what a nice piece of shit plane.

I expect a full apology from our resident american's for bashing Airbus. Especially BK.


Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. Reply with quote

eeyrjmr wrote:
In fact who here does, its a linux forum ...


Let me introduce you to the internet sir.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. Reply with quote

eeyrjmr wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
In three days we got:
one fire
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-07/boeing-787-damaged-in-fire-while-on-ground-in-boston.html

one leaking fuel system:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/08/travel/dreamliner-fuel-leak/index.html

and now it can't even decelerate anymore:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323442804578231530324383590.html

wow, what a nice piece of shit plane.

I expect a full apology from our resident american's for bashing Airbus. Especially BK.


Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ...

Just for your info, we have 2 certified pilots that are regulars on this forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
In three days we got
Merged.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile Rheinmetall is no longer able to make real guns.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. Reply with quote

eeyrjmr wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
In three days we got:
one fire
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-07/boeing-787-damaged-in-fire-while-on-ground-in-boston.html

one leaking fuel system:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/08/travel/dreamliner-fuel-leak/index.html

and now it can't even decelerate anymore:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323442804578231530324383590.html

wow, what a nice piece of shit plane.

I expect a full apology from our resident american's for bashing Airbus. Especially BK.


Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ...


8O
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The extra chromosome is strong with this one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. Reply with quote

eeyrjmr wrote:
What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ...
I don't know about your subject of concern, but there are at least a couple here who have demonstrated some knowledge beyond "wiki."
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