Gangnam Style - The OTW thread.

notageek · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:37 am Post subject:

Anybody reading your post would've come to the same conclusion. Not him though.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1499 Location: U.S.A.

Ah, I see. You were operating under the foregone conclusion that all the people who have been massacred in those various countries by al Qaeda were "friendly" to them and therefore not innocent victims. I guess that slipped from my mind momentarily because it seems so obviously incorrect. It seemed like you were sort of begging the question there.

By the way, in my experience, the term "friendly fire" is not typically used to describe the killing of innocent civilians; it's usually used to refer to "fratricide": combatants accidentally killing other combatants on the same side (a.k.a. "blue on blue"). The killing of innocent civilians is, if intentional and unavoidable, a war crime or terrorism, or, if unintentional, is considered a collateral casualty incident (i.e. casualty-producing collateral damage). "Unavoidable" means it prevented more harm than it caused and there was no other feasible way of preventing the harm.

Most of al Qaeda's killing of innocent civilians would fall into the category of terrorism: the intentional an illegal targeting of non-combatants to control the behavior of others. Some of it is simple collateral damage, which increases in likelihood with primitive weapons and inadequate training. Some, I'm sure, are war crimes, which increase in likelihood with informal authority and decentralized control.
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sikpuppy · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:03 am Post subject:

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1499 Location: U.S.A.

I'm sorry you find it so disturbing. Would you like to talk about that?
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sikpuppy · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:45 am Post subject:

dmitchell · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:27 am Post subject:

I can't find much about this guy but from what I've read it seems premature to be linking him to 9-11 or al-Qaeda's victims. It seems he was a gopher and translator for bin Laden. Now bin Laden was an evil dude so working for him makes you suspect, but I need to see more before I start pinning bodies on this guy.
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Muso · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:20 am Post subject:

pjp · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:26 pm Post subject:

Dr.Willy · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:11 pm Post subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci48kqp11F8

pjp · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:14 pm Post subject:

This guy is better and at least does something useful.
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John-Boy · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:17 pm Post subject:

pjp · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:23 pm Post subject:

Any idea why?
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notageek · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:26 pm Post subject:

His fish stinks?
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John-Boy · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:06 am Post subject:

pjp · Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:01 am Post subject:

A shame nobody stopped and deported Psy.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1499 Location: U.S.A.

I think it's finally sinking in that the reason people watched that video is because they thought he was a total ass. I caught a sound-bite the other day where he was saying words to the effect of, "... I was trying to be ridiculous the whole time."
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